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From: Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
To: "Adrienne G. Thompson" <adriennegayethompson@gmail.com>
Cc: quiliro@riseup.net, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	libreplanet-discuss <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: Is Stallman nuts?
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 01:59:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190918015947.1d921fea1f11381276f2e1d6@minifree.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACvtE5F==2h45xphPDJfZe9tDXR+pks2hXnqkt6mw0sLP3bSQQ@mail.gmail.com>


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meritocracy is silly in terms of advancing equality, because it
implies an equal playing field - nothing is further from the truth

women (and LGBT people, and black people etc) are routinely
descriminated against, and less likely to get involved in tech.

we need to spend more effort bringing such people into the movement.
since you know, they actually form at least half the planet and have
the same intelligence/potential.

I say this as an LGBT person.

If you have the choice between a more qualified male candidate and less
qualified female candidate, hire the female candidate - and
train/educate her. it's important.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 09:22:25 -0500
"Adrienne G. Thompson" <adriennegayethompson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Quiliro, I see you're at riseup.net!
> 
> 
> > Your message has made Richard Stallman, an icon to human rights,
> > resign as president of the board of directors and as president of
> > the FSF.
> >
> > As for me, I will stop preferring women for positions on free
> > software technical areas. I think that they will earn them if they
> > deserve such positions.
> >
> 
> Affirmative action is a noble concept, but sometimes adopting the
> policy just doesn't make sense. You always need the very best for
> technical positions - which should accordingly be earned on merit. I
> doubt that I will be "preferring women" for technical positions at
> GNU C-Graph!
> 
> This whole business smells like a set-up. I've noted the number of
> people who rushed to distance themselves from rms, some of whom he
> might once have considered friends. RMS will rise again in the blink
> of an eye!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
> *You may write me down in historyWith your bitter, twisted lies,You
> may trod me in the very dirtBut still, like dust, I'll rise.You may
> shoot me with your words,You may cut me with your eyes,You may kill
> me with your hatefulness,But still, like air, I’ll rise.Just like
> moons and like suns,With the certainty of tides,Just like hopes
> springing high,Still I'll rise.*
> 
> >From "Still I Rise" by Maya Angelou
> 
> Adrienne G. Thompson
> Author and Inventor, GNU C-Graph
> She/Her
> -- 
> Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN!
> 
> GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
> Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com
> Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info
> Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-18  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-15 17:35 Is Stallman nuts? MARY-ANNE WOLF
2019-09-15 18:01 ` lily via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-15 18:37 ` Thomas Lord
2019-09-15 20:20   ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-15 20:34     ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-15 20:45     ` Thomas Lord
2019-09-15 20:59       ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-16  0:53     ` No, Stallman isn't "nuts" nor does he deserve less freedom of speech J.B. Nicholson
2019-09-16  1:47       ` Steven Sullam
2019-09-16  2:35         ` Taking credit for your own choices and free software is neither anti-commercial nor anti-profit J.B. Nicholson
2019-09-16 10:19         ` No, Stallman isn't "nuts" nor does he deserve less freedom of speech Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-16 10:29           ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-16 10:33             ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-16 14:41               ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16 16:40               ` 'smee via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-16  2:07       ` Eric Schultz
2019-09-17  0:18         ` quiliro
2019-09-17  6:50         ` Ole Aamot
2019-09-16 15:03       ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-20 17:26     ` Is Stallman nuts? Will Hill
2019-09-20 18:26       ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-21 22:33         ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-15 18:37 ` C. Cossé
2019-09-15 20:41   ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-15 18:46 ` Michael Downey
2019-09-15 19:40   ` MARY-ANNE WOLF
2019-09-15 19:54     ` Federico klez Culloca
2019-09-15 20:30     ` TechLibre
2019-09-15 20:37       ` Betsy Garrett
2019-09-15 20:44         ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-15 20:49         ` TechLibre
2019-09-15 20:53         ` Andrew Luke Nesbit
2019-09-15 19:34 ` TechLibre
2019-09-15 19:41 ` Robert Call (Bob)
2019-09-15 20:30 ` Thomas Lord
2019-09-15 22:14 ` Mark Phelan
2019-09-16 11:54 ` Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott
2019-09-16 14:54   ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16 16:36     ` Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott
2019-09-16 21:11       ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-16 17:49     ` Deb Nicholson
2019-09-16 20:08       ` alimiracle
2019-09-17 13:50 ` quiliro
2019-09-17 14:22   ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-17 17:04     ` Ole Aamot
2019-09-17 18:03       ` quiliro
2019-09-17 18:29         ` Danny Spitzberg
2019-09-17 19:35           ` 'smee via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-17 20:37           ` quiliro
2019-09-22  3:47           ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-17 18:47         ` lily via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-17 19:13           ` Thomas Lord
2019-09-17 19:23           ` Aaron Wolf
2019-09-17 21:13             ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-17 23:29               ` A. Mani
2019-09-19  4:34             ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-19 11:52               ` A. Mani
2019-09-19 14:32                 ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-20  4:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2019-09-18  5:30           ` Joel Holder
2019-09-17 19:22       ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-17 20:27     ` quiliro
2019-09-18  0:00       ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-18  0:03         ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-18  0:04           ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-18  0:23       ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-18  0:59     ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss [this message]
2019-09-18  1:12       ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-18  4:35       ` quiliro
2019-09-18  5:28         ` Isaac David
2019-09-18 15:42           ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-18 23:13             ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-19  1:57               ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-19  0:25         ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-19  0:28           ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-19  0:37             ` Diplomatic activism [was Re: Is Stallman nuts?] Aaron Wolf
2019-09-21 19:52               ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2019-09-18 23:44       ` Is Stallman nuts? Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-09-19  0:31         ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
     [not found] <mailman.1435.1568576087.2187.libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
2019-09-16 22:12 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2019-09-16 22:20   ` Dr. Tom McKellips
     [not found] <mailman.1925.1568747595.2189.libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
2019-09-17 20:05 ` Cinder Roxley
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2019-09-18  2:49 Jeffrey Haines via libreplanet-discuss

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