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From: Ole Aamot <oka@oka.no>
To: Magnus <dizzi90@gmail.com>
Cc: "rms@gnu.org" <rms@gnu.org>, Jacob Hrbek <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz>,
	 libreplanet-discuss <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 08:32:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFtywu4-o8DudbOd-LnDCrDAWqG518oYSbuNEjcdknJ4pS965w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA+nH92ffd9PqZ0S=6tvJN4K+j64J4CU8AKwSPu=McWr=eZwww@mail.gmail.com>


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The code is in GNOME Gitlab and free to fork, ignore or co-operate with.

http://gitlab.gnome.org/ole/gnome-radio

There is a Issue tracker, feel free to file issues in

http://gitlab.gnome.org/ole/gnome-radio/-/issues

or send merge requests.

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 08:14 Magnus, <dizzi90@gmail.com> wrote:

> The cure against hateful speech is constructive speech. As Richard wrote
> in Free Software, Free Society, there is a link between knowing the law of
> a country and knowing the software that runs on computers you control.
> The Internet makes the world one society and we must take greater care in
> knowing the consequences of our actions. Else we as creators manifest a
> tyrannical rule. XAI must be part of a free global siblinghood.
>
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 00:44 Ole Aamot, <oka@oka.no> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:22 AM Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
>>> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
>>> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>>>
>>> Free software means that the developers cannot decide who can use it
>>> and who cannot.  If we had the power to stop Russia from using a program,
>>> we would also have the power to anyone else from using it.
>>> That would not be free software.
>>>
>>
>> True.
>>
>> We could become uncivil and block people from downloading a free software
>> program, but there are no such (as far as I know) ipchains blocklists on
>> www.gnomeradio.org, so
>> there is no reason to do so either.  We live in civil democracies, but
>> Russia and Putin has invaded Ukraine.
>>
>> I have recently added Retro FM in Kyiv, Ukraine after discussions with
>> Magnus (dizzi90@gmail.com), when we saw that someone with a Russian IP
>> address deliberatedly tried to remove Retro FM from the list of Ukrainian
>> radio stations on en.wikipedia.org, so we decided to loop censorship on
>> Wikipedia and therefore published the station in GNOME Radio 16.0.6 for
>> GNOME 42 to a global mirror of GNOME.
>>
>> See
>> https://blogs.gnome.org/oleaamot/2022/03/19/gnome-radio-16-for-gnome-42/
>> and http://www.gnomeradio.org/
>>
>> --
>> Ole Aamot
>> Aamot Software / www.aamot.software
>> Frydenbergveien, 0575 OSLO, Norway
>> (+47) 45049800 / ole@aamot.software
>>
>

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   The code is in GNOME Gitlab and free to fork, ignore or co-operate
   with.
   [1]http://gitlab.gnome.org/ole/gnome-radio
   There is a Issue tracker, feel free to file issues in
   [2]http://gitlab.gnome.org/ole/gnome-radio/-/issues
   or send merge requests.
   On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 08:14 Magnus, <[3]dizzi90@gmail.com> wrote:

   The cure against hateful speech is constructive speech. As Richard
   wrote in Free Software, Free Society, there is a link between knowing
   the law of a country and knowing the software that runs on computers
   you control.
   The Internet makes the world one society and we must take greater care
   in knowing the consequences of our actions. Else we as creators
   manifest a tyrannical rule. XAI must be part of a free global
   siblinghood.

   On Thu, 31 Mar 2022, 00:44 Ole Aamot, <[4]oka@oka.no> wrote:

   On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 5:22 AM Richard Stallman <[5]rms@gnu.org> wrote:

     [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
     ]]]
     [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,
     ]]]
     [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.
     ]]]
     Free software means that the developers cannot decide who can use it
     and who cannot.  If we had the power to stop Russia from using a
     program,
     we would also have the power to anyone else from using it.
     That would not be free software.

   True.
   We could become uncivil and block people from downloading a free
   software program, but there are no such (as far as I know) ipchains
   blocklists on [6]www.gnomeradio.org, so
   there is no reason to do so either.  We live in civil democracies, but
   Russia and Putin has invaded Ukraine.
   I have recently added Retro FM in Kyiv, Ukraine after discussions with
   Magnus ([7]dizzi90@gmail.com), when we saw that someone with a Russian
   IP address deliberatedly tried to remove Retro FM from the list of
   Ukrainian radio stations on [8]en.wikipedia.org, so we decided to loop
   censorship on Wikipedia and therefore published the station in GNOME
   Radio 16.0.6 for GNOME 42 to a global mirror of GNOME.
   See
   [9]https://blogs.gnome.org/oleaamot/2022/03/19/gnome-radio-16-for-gnome
   -42/ and [10]http://www.gnomeradio.org/
   --
   Ole Aamot
   Aamot Software / [11]www.aamot.software
   Frydenbergveien, 0575 OSLO, Norway
   (+47) 45049800 / [12]ole@aamot.software

References

   1. http://gitlab.gnome.org/ole/gnome-radio
   2. http://gitlab.gnome.org/ole/gnome-radio/-/issues
   3. mailto:dizzi90@gmail.com
   4. mailto:oka@oka.no
   5. mailto:rms@gnu.org
   6. http://www.gnomeradio.org/
   7. mailto:dizzi90@gmail.com
   8. http://en.wikipedia.org/
   9. https://blogs.gnome.org/oleaamot/2022/03/19/gnome-radio-16-for-gnome-42/
  10. http://www.gnomeradio.org/
  11. http://www.aamot.software/
  12. mailto:ole@aamot.software

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-31  6:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-24  8:04 Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-24 17:00 ` Devin Ulibarri
     [not found]   ` <Yhh7tevsz3Ha5xY+@protected.localdomain>
2022-02-25 12:15     ` Devin Ulibarri
2022-02-25 15:32       ` Aaron Wolf
2022-02-26  0:48         ` Thomas Lord
2022-02-26  1:34           ` Should we take steps to reduce Russian access to Free Software? No J.B. Nicholson
2022-02-27  4:10         ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Richard Stallman
2022-03-01  4:59         ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-01  7:52           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27  4:11     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]       ` <35700904-028a-1dbf-3d48-0478701ae0f8@gmail.com>
2022-03-01  4:24         ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01 10:50           ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness gregor
2022-03-02  6:18             ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-02  6:58               ` gregor
2022-03-03  5:07                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-03 13:51                   ` gregor
2022-03-03 15:56                   ` Devin Ulibarri
2022-03-03 18:45                     ` Ole Aamot
2022-03-04 15:13                       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-04 15:42                       ` Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss
     [not found]                         ` <c54b6cbc-a88a-3abf-2f60-b0fb2ca0d066@rixotstudio.cz>
2022-03-06  5:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-08 11:01                             ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-08 22:50                               ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-09 16:20                                 ` Should distros take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Félicien Pillot
2022-03-09 16:43                                   ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-09 18:03                                   ` Erica Frank
2022-03-10 16:01                                     ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-11 16:16                                       ` Matt Ivie
2022-03-12  5:27                                       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-12 17:48                                         ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-12 18:53                                           ` Jean Louis
2022-03-13  3:52                                             ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-13  9:51                                               ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2022-03-13 15:07                                                 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-13 17:33                                                   ` gregor
2022-03-13 18:51                                                     ` Miles Fidelman
2022-03-13 20:25                                                     ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-12 19:36                                           ` Miles Fidelman
2022-03-12 23:44                                           ` Getting the truth into Russia Akira Urushibata
2022-03-13 17:57                                     ` Should distros take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Jean Louis
2022-03-13 23:49                                       ` Ron Nazarov via libreplanet-discuss
2022-03-14  1:57                                       ` Akira Urushibata
2022-03-14  2:01                                       ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-14  5:50                                         ` "Open Source" is vague term referring to guns, wine, spirituality, etc Jean Louis
2022-03-14 21:01                                           ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-14 21:17                                             ` Jean Louis
2022-03-14 21:48                                               ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-15  5:26                                                 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-14 22:01                                           ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-15  6:10                                             ` Jean Louis
2022-03-15 11:54                                             ` Jean Louis
2022-03-18  6:14                                           ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-11  5:15                                   ` Should distros take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Richard Stallman
2022-03-11 14:36                                     ` knowledgeofnations
2022-03-11 15:03                                     ` Miles Fidelman
2022-03-11 18:22                                       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-12 16:55                                         ` Miles Fidelman
2022-03-08 23:22                               ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness Matt Ivie
2022-03-09  4:21                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-30 22:44                                 ` Ole Aamot
     [not found]                                   ` <CAA+nH92ffd9PqZ0S=6tvJN4K+j64J4CU8AKwSPu=McWr=eZwww@mail.gmail.com>
2022-03-31  6:32                                     ` Ole Aamot [this message]
2022-04-01  4:11                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-09  8:05                               ` Free software is not perpetrator Jean Louis
2022-03-09 15:21                               ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness Federico Leva (Nemo)
2022-03-02 11:12               ` Jean Louis
2022-03-03  5:07               ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01 17:53           ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Julian Daich
2022-02-24 17:10 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2022-02-24 18:03 ` Aaron Wolf

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