From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Should distros take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:03:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0ee5b8b-8778-b734-429d-adb48db908b0@meetinghouse.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1nSXcn-0004cT-8F@fencepost.gnu.org>
Richard Stallman wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> > So what we could ask, is that Savannah, Github or Sourceforge, and
> > Debian, Fedora or Ubuntu, stop to distribute free software in Russia.
>
> We could make Savannah deny access from Russian domain address, but
> why do that?
>
> It would not impede anything the Russian government wants to to with
> our softwsre. It would not stop Russians from downloading our
> software, as they could use mirror sites. It _would_ stop people in
> Russia from committing changes in our repositories, unless they use
> Tor or a VPN. That isn't hard to do, unless Putin has blocked it.
>
> The main thing that would do is tell Russians, "You are Russian, so
> you are scum."
>
> Is it useful to treat Russians that way? Would it help save Ukraine
> or defeat Putin? I don't think so. That message is not a valid or
> useful message to give to Russians.
>
Good points all.
Then again, we might want to spend a bit more time SCRUTINIZING
SUBMISSIONS to the repositories. I expect that the Russians (among
others) are spending a bit more time, of late, inserting malware into
things - to better distribute disinformation, the better to collect
names of folks to arrest, the better to prepare for large scale
cyberattacks.
Let's be sure that our efforts are helping the revolution, not the man.
Miles Fidelman
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2022-02-24 8:04 Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-24 17:00 ` Devin Ulibarri
[not found] ` <Yhh7tevsz3Ha5xY+@protected.localdomain>
2022-02-25 12:15 ` Devin Ulibarri
2022-02-25 15:32 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-02-26 0:48 ` Thomas Lord
2022-02-26 1:34 ` Should we take steps to reduce Russian access to Free Software? No J.B. Nicholson
2022-02-27 4:10 ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Richard Stallman
2022-03-01 4:59 ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-01 7:52 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <35700904-028a-1dbf-3d48-0478701ae0f8@gmail.com>
2022-03-01 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01 10:50 ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness gregor
2022-03-02 6:18 ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-02 6:58 ` gregor
2022-03-03 5:07 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-03 13:51 ` gregor
2022-03-03 15:56 ` Devin Ulibarri
2022-03-03 18:45 ` Ole Aamot
2022-03-04 15:13 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-04 15:42 ` Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss
[not found] ` <c54b6cbc-a88a-3abf-2f60-b0fb2ca0d066@rixotstudio.cz>
2022-03-06 5:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-08 11:01 ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-08 22:50 ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-09 16:20 ` Should distros take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Félicien Pillot
2022-03-09 16:43 ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-09 18:03 ` Erica Frank
2022-03-10 16:01 ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-11 16:16 ` Matt Ivie
2022-03-12 5:27 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-12 17:48 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-12 18:53 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-13 3:52 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-13 9:51 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2022-03-13 15:07 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-13 17:33 ` gregor
2022-03-13 18:51 ` Miles Fidelman
2022-03-13 20:25 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-12 19:36 ` Miles Fidelman
2022-03-12 23:44 ` Getting the truth into Russia Akira Urushibata
2022-03-13 17:57 ` Should distros take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Jean Louis
2022-03-13 23:49 ` Ron Nazarov via libreplanet-discuss
2022-03-14 1:57 ` Akira Urushibata
2022-03-14 2:01 ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-14 5:50 ` "Open Source" is vague term referring to guns, wine, spirituality, etc Jean Louis
2022-03-14 21:01 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-14 21:17 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-14 21:48 ` Aaron Wolf
2022-03-15 5:26 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-14 22:01 ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-15 6:10 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-15 11:54 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-18 6:14 ` Valentino Giudice
2022-03-11 5:15 ` Should distros take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Richard Stallman
2022-03-11 14:36 ` knowledgeofnations
2022-03-11 15:03 ` Miles Fidelman [this message]
2022-03-11 18:22 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-12 16:55 ` Miles Fidelman
2022-03-08 23:22 ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness Matt Ivie
2022-03-09 4:21 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-30 22:44 ` Ole Aamot
[not found] ` <CAA+nH92ffd9PqZ0S=6tvJN4K+j64J4CU8AKwSPu=McWr=eZwww@mail.gmail.com>
2022-03-31 6:32 ` Ole Aamot
2022-04-01 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-09 8:05 ` Free software is not perpetrator Jean Louis
2022-03-09 15:21 ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?> the headache of it all dissolves in forgiveness Federico Leva (Nemo)
2022-03-02 11:12 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-03 5:07 ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01 17:53 ` Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software? Julian Daich
2022-02-24 17:10 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2022-02-24 18:03 ` Aaron Wolf
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