From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Dmitry Potapov <dpotapov@gmail.com>,
Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>,
Carlos Martin Nieto <cmn@elego.de>,
Jeremy Morton <jeremy@configit.com>,
Thomas Rast <trast@inf.ethz.ch>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: git push default behaviour?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 06:56:34 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ipidzuxp.fsf@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vwr6u6qrn.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
[I am sorry if you have received duplicates]
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr> writes:
>> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
>>
>>> I just dug it up; start from here:
>>>
>>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/123350/focus=123541
>>
>> That's an old discussion. A more recent one is here:
>>
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/166743
>>
>> (interleaved with a discussion about tag namespace, but the end of the
>> message is about push.default)
>
> I'd say that it only shows that everybody for some strange reason
> forgot to learn from history, including me, in that more recent
> thread. Luckily, Jeff noticed eerily familiarity this time around.
Nb. if I remember it correctly one of problems seen with transition to
new default was that there were no command-line equivalent to
'push.default = matching'... but now we have ":" and "+:" magic
refspec.
>> (i.e. "Care to roll an appliable patch?", which I guess everyone has
>> been too lazy to do)
[...]
> Resurrecting the old patch that was reverted is the easiest part.
>
> It is much more important to spread the word to the people who will
> be hurt by the default change well before it actually happens, and
> to get them engaged in the discussion, along with those who would
> benefit from such a change. That needs to happen before any patch
> that reverts a revert.
>
> Even in the kernel community, I suspect that most people do not
> follow this mailing list anymore and simply trust that we won't make
> changes that affect them negatively. People will complain only after
> a change hits them, and tell us "We didn't know that you will be
> making this stupid change." And having this thread here does not
> count as "spreading the word".
>
> I can send a message saying "There is a proposal to change the
> default behaviour of 'git push' on the Git mailing list, and you may
> be negatively affected if you do not see anything in the output from
> 'git config push.default' when such a change happens. On the other
> hand, you may want to see the default behaviour to change. In either
> case, please join the discussion to give us more data point and help
> us decide the future of Git." to the kernel list. Anybody could, for
> that matter.
There are other places where we can send such message beside git
mailing list and LKML: There is Junio's "Git Blame" blog, there is Git
page on Google+; we can ask for such annoncement to be posted also
on GitHub Blog...
Spread the word...
--
Jakub Narebski
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-09 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-08 10:01 git push default behaviour? Jeremy Morton
2012-03-08 10:11 ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-08 10:13 ` Jeremy Morton
2012-03-08 10:28 ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2012-03-08 10:38 ` Jeremy Morton
2012-03-08 10:42 ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2012-03-08 10:43 ` Jeremy Morton
2012-03-08 18:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-08 18:35 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-08 19:03 ` Andreas Krey
2012-03-08 19:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 8:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-09 9:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 11:28 ` Jeremy Morton
2012-03-09 11:54 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-09 14:42 ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-19 6:02 ` Miles Bader
2012-03-19 16:12 ` Philippe Vaucher
2012-03-08 15:00 ` Marc Branchaud
2012-03-08 15:26 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-08 17:49 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-08 18:04 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-09 3:38 ` Jeff King
2012-03-09 5:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 5:38 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 8:06 ` demerphq
2012-03-09 8:48 ` Thomas Rast
2012-03-09 9:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-16 9:38 ` Gelonida N
2012-03-09 8:25 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-09 8:31 ` [RFC PATCH] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Matthieu Moy
2012-03-09 10:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 20:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 10:25 ` Carlos Martín Nieto
2012-03-09 18:30 ` Marc Branchaud
2012-03-09 21:08 ` Stefan Haller
2012-03-10 21:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-11 20:26 ` Stefan Haller
2012-03-12 8:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-12 11:22 ` Stefan Haller
2012-03-12 12:46 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-12 16:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-12 15:10 ` Marc Branchaud
2012-03-10 6:16 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-03-12 15:13 ` Marc Branchaud
2012-03-12 16:37 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-12 17:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-12 18:37 ` Jeff King
2012-03-12 19:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-12 19:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-12 20:16 ` Marc Branchaud
2012-03-13 9:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-13 9:36 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-13 21:30 ` Jeff King
2012-03-13 22:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-14 13:50 ` Jeff King
2012-03-14 20:59 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-13 9:34 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-13 13:17 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-13 13:35 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-13 20:01 ` Auto-matching upstream branches by name (was: [RFC PATCH] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default) Stefan Haller
2012-03-14 9:10 ` Auto-matching upstream branches by name Matthieu Moy
2012-03-13 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH] push: start warning upcoming default change for push.default Marc Branchaud
2012-03-13 14:59 ` Holger Hellmuth
2012-03-13 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-14 19:15 ` Holger Hellmuth
2012-03-15 8:02 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-15 10:43 ` Holger Hellmuth
2012-03-13 15:02 ` Andreas Ericsson
2012-03-13 21:35 ` Jeff King
2012-03-13 18:08 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-14 4:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-14 12:47 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-14 17:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-14 17:49 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-14 20:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-14 9:07 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-14 13:23 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-14 14:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-14 17:47 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-15 8:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-14 8:59 ` Michael Haggerty
2012-03-14 14:00 ` Jeff King
2012-03-09 11:26 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2012-03-16 8:51 ` Clemens Buchacher
2012-03-16 9:43 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-16 12:05 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-16 12:42 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-16 21:48 ` Clemens Buchacher
2012-03-17 20:46 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-19 16:11 ` Andrew Myers
2012-03-09 9:57 ` git push default behaviour? Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 12:11 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-09 16:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 17:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-09 14:56 ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2012-03-09 16:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-13 15:18 ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-12 9:34 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-12 16:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-13 9:47 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-13 12:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-16 19:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-03-17 15:49 ` Eric Hanchrow
2012-03-08 17:37 ` Dmitry Potapov
2012-03-08 11:33 ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-08 11:34 ` Jeremy Morton
2012-03-13 15:27 ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-14 12:12 ` Jeremy Morton
2012-03-14 17:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2012-03-08 11:54 ` Matthieu Moy
2012-03-08 12:12 ` demerphq
2012-03-17 9:36 ` Sebastien Douche
2012-03-17 9:38 ` Jeremy Morton
2012-03-17 9:51 ` Sebastien Douche
2012-03-18 10:26 ` Pavel Pospíšil
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