From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Let's have public Git chalk talks, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:58:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <211025.86pmrtgsxr.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2110221143240.62@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>
On Fri, Oct 22 2021, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Team,
>
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
>> * Let's have public Git chalk talks
>
> Okay, I give up on the mailing list. I tried some 20 times to send the
> notes out in one form or another, and it simply is not working, and the
> time I spent trying was definitely lost time.
>
> So here is a link:
> https://gist.github.com/dscho/003a0e112058e5794b5e08e84d34092d
Trying to see if it works for me. FWIW I recieved a bounce from GMail on
an unrelated mail of mine in this thread whose error suggests that
gmx.de's MX's may be rate limiting recieved mails on your account in
some way, which may or may not have anything to do with difficulties
interacting with kernel.org infrastructure in general.
Attempt to paste
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/dscho/003a0e112058e5794b5e08e84d34092d/raw/8d825e01152d957671d5da9e7c5217cabc37afa5/gistfile1.txt
follows below:
This session was led by Emily Shaffer. Supporting cast: Ævar Arnfjörð
Bjarmason, brian m. carlson, CB Bailey, and Junio Hamano.
Notes:
1. What’s a public chalk talk?
1. At Google, once a week, the team meets up with no particular topic in
mind, or a couple topics, very informal
2. One person’s turn each week to give an informal talk with a white
board (not using chalk)
3. Topic should be technical and of interest to the presenter
4. For example: how does protocol v2 work
5. Collaborative, interactive user session
6. Helps by learning about things
7. Helps by honing skills like presentation skills
8. A lot of (good) humility involved. For example, colleagues who have
been familiar with the project for a long time admitting they don’t
know, or have been wrong about things. Makes others feel more
comfortable with their perceived lack of knowledge
9. Could be good for everybody on the Git mailing list, might foster less
combative communication on the list
10. Might be a way to attract new people by presenting “old timers” as
humble
2. Does that appeal to anybody else?
3. Ævar: I think it would be great, has been a long time we’ve seen each
other, and already feels different
4. One thing to keep in mind: it’s hard to program on a white board :-)
5. Emily: some challenges:
1. How often?
2. What time?
3. Probably move things around (because we’re global)
4. Tech to use? Jitsi? Twitch? (Twitch seems to be particularly popular to
teach programming)
5. Figure out what topics to present
6. Ævar: does not matter what tech to use
7. Emily: some difference may make it matter: on Twitch, you can record, and
they host recordings
8. One thing to worry about recording: people might be reticent to make
public mistakes
9. It’s possible to do a Twitch stream, and not record it
10. brian: maybe record it, but not keep the recordings forever
11. People might be uncomfortable having their homes being recorded
12. At GitHub, some sessions are recorded just so people from other timezones
can watch later
13. CB: would be a nice way to see the other contributors
14. Really like the idea, hopefully won’t replace other things we do
15. Emily: internally, often about patch series in progress (or not even
started)
16. So retaining recordings for long time makes even less sense
17. Weekly might be too frequently, Monthly cadence sound more reasonable?
18. Junio: not sure we want an official schedule
19. Assumed this would be an extension of what we do on IRC
20. Remember when Linus would drop in and talk about a specific topic in
depth, was nice
21. Now we have video
22. Emily: I fear if we don’t schedule it, it’ll never happen
23. Ævar: would like it to be organized, maybe try some schedule and then
iterate?
24. brian: if it is scheduled, I can put it on my calendar, otherwise might be
hard to block the time
25. Every two weeks would be fine, especially when alternating timezones
26. Emily: who besides me wants to volunteer for the other timezone?
27. Ævar: if you start a schedule, I’ll see what I can do
28. CB: also interested
29. brian: can do, but Toronto is probably too close to California time
30. Junio: schedule should be put on https://tinyurl.com/gitcal
31. Emily: how about using a Google Sheet just like for the Contributors’
Summit?
32. One advantage to decide the topic in advance is that people can decide
whether to make time to attend, on the other hand people might show up
with a polished PowerPoint, which is not the idea
33. brian: we can try, and if it does not work, make it less formal
34. Emily: pretty much got what I need to start this
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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-21 11:55 Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:30 ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-26 20:14 ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Eric Wong
2021-10-30 19:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 9:24 ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas (was: scripting speedups[...]) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 22:12 ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas Junio C Hamano
2021-11-02 13:52 ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] SHA-256 Updates Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Server-side merge/rebase: needs and wants? Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 3:06 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 10:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-23 20:52 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 18:21 ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09 2:15 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 10:06 ` Christian Couder
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Submodules and how to make them worth using Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Sparse checkout behavior and plans Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] The state of getting a reftable backend working in git.git Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 19:00 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-25 22:09 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26 8:12 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-28 14:17 ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-26 15:51 ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Documentation (translations, FAQ updates, new user-focused, general improvements, etc.) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 14:20 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-22 14:31 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 7:02 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-27 8:50 ` Jeff King
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:55 ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-22 10:02 ` vale check, was " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 10:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving Git UX Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 16:45 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-21 23:03 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-22 3:33 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 14:04 ` martin
2021-10-22 14:24 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22 15:30 ` martin
2021-10-23 8:27 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Sergey Organov
2021-10-22 21:54 ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-24 6:54 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Martin
2021-10-24 20:27 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 12:48 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-25 17:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 16:44 ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-25 22:23 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 18:54 ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 13:41 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-10-22 22:06 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22 8:02 ` Missing notes, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 8:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 8:30 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 9:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 9:44 ` Let's have public Git chalk talks, " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 12:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
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