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From: martin <test2@mfriebe.de>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>
Subject: Re: changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 16:04:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c6b3041-a5c0-6fe1-860e-7bfcb292ae81@mfriebe.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <211021.86wnm6l1ip.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>

On 21/10/2021 18:45, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> E.g. the "-n" option to "git fetch" comes to mind, which isn't
> a synonym for "--dry-run", as in most other places.
>

-n
is only used very few times for dry run. I found
git add
git rm
git mv

But
cherry-pick => no commit
pull => no stat
rebase => no stat
merge => no stat
fetch => no tags
clone => no checkout

In any case, "-n" has always a "no" meaning (even dry run, mean "no 
changes to be recorded").

So IMHO -n is a really bad idea for "new"


About "-b" branch:
That does give no indication something is created. I find it highly 
confusing for checkout already,
because the word "branch" could also mean "check out to existing branch" 
rather than doing a detached checkout.
However, others may be perfectly fine with -b only referring to branches 
that will be created.

-c of course is also used for config in clone.... :)

If 2 letters could be used, then -c could be given twice for "create copy"
-c  => create
-c -c  => create copy
-cc  => create copy

----------
Also, will move/copy for switch actually be the same as for "git branch"?

I haven't used them, but from the docs, I take it that a 
[new/replacement] branch will be created, and this branches tip points 
to the same commit as the origin branch.

But in "git switch" a new commit for the top is given. So that differs.
Maybe someone can educate me ?
- For move, where is the diff between
   git switch --move existing_branch  commit
   git switch --force-create existing_branch  commit
Afaik only that the reflog will be copied/kept?

For copy what does it mean at all?
   git switch --copy existing_branch  commit
Does not make any sense at all.
Because "copy" means that "existing_branch" is to be kept. So copy needs 
a name for the new branch.
I see 2 possible copies
   git switch --copy existing_branch  new_branch commit
   git switch --copy existing_branch  target_branch
For the latter, it switches to the existing "target_branch", but 
replaces its reflog.

Unless there is more, than the copying of the reflog, wouldn't it be 
better to add an option "--copy-reflog"
Then you could do
git switch --copy-reflog=branch   target_branch  # replace reflog of 
existing target branch
git switch --copy-reflog=branch  -c new_branch  target_branch  # 
new_branch will get the reflog / this is "copy"
git switch --copy-reflog=branch  -C new_branch  target_branch  # 
new_branch will get the reflog
git switch --copy-reflog  -C existing_branch  target_branch  # 
existing_branch will keep the reflog. / this is "move"


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-22 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21 11:55 Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:30   ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-26 20:14   ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Eric Wong
2021-10-30 19:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03  9:24       ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas (was: scripting speedups[...]) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 22:12         ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas Junio C Hamano
2021-11-02 13:52     ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] SHA-256 Updates Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Server-side merge/rebase: needs and wants? Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  3:06   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 10:01     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-23 20:52       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 18:21   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09  2:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 10:06       ` Christian Couder
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Submodules and how to make them worth using Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Sparse checkout behavior and plans Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] The state of getting a reftable backend working in git.git Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 19:00   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-25 22:09     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26  8:12       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-28 14:17         ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-26 15:51       ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Documentation (translations, FAQ updates, new user-focused, general improvements, etc.) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 14:20   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-22 14:31     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27  7:02       ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-27  8:50       ` Jeff King
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:55   ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-22 10:02     ` vale check, was " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 10:03       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving Git UX Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 16:45   ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-21 23:03     ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-22  3:33     ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 14:04     ` martin [this message]
2021-10-22 14:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22 15:30         ` martin
2021-10-23  8:27           ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Sergey Organov
2021-10-22 21:54         ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-24  6:54       ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Martin
2021-10-24 20:27         ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 12:48           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-25 17:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 16:44     ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-25 22:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 18:54         ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 13:41   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-10-22 22:06     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22  8:02 ` Missing notes, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  8:22   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  8:30     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  9:07       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  9:44 ` Let's have public Git chalk talks, " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 12:58   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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