From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc)
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 00:06:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <211023.861r4ck8jw.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211021134105.ziqmcknnpdsg6cvc@meerkat.local>
On Thu, Oct 21 2021, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 01:57:11PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>> 2. Dscho said he’s not able to follow everything on the mailing list
>>
>> 1. if you have just one patch you send, reply-all works okay
>>
>> 2. mailing list works reasonably well if you’re someone like Junio, working
>> on it full time, has good mail filters, keeps up to date with everything
>>
>> 3. If you’re in-between, does not work well
>
> This is a problem that's not actually unique to mailing lists. If you have any
> project that is popular enough, at some point it reaches critical mass where
> developer/user feedback becomes too much for anyone to keep up. Github
> projects aren't immune to this either, but they do have a benefit of providing
> an easy interface for someone to apply categorization to issues/discussions.
I'd like to use this mail as a good jump-off point to link to my "how"
v.s. "what" E-Mail from when this was last discussed. I think I
mentioned it in passing at the recent summit:
https://lore.kernel.org/git/87fszd3xo0.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/
Especially as...
>> 13. Junio: Not really. The extra tracking conversations are not as
>> important to me. I think it’s a feature that if someone requests a
>> feature and nothing happens for a while that it no longer produces
>> overhead for people is a useful feature. That kind of old filtering
>> feature is sometimes valuable.
>
> I find that if there's no mailing list integration, then bugzilla generally
> rots after the initial person getting the bug reports moves on. Then bugs
> reported via bugzilla just sit there without anyone paying attention. At least
> when bug reports get sent to the list, the ensuing discussions get reflected
> in both the list archives and in bugzilla.
...it makes a passive mention to this "forgetting as a feature" aspect
of not having a bug tracker.
>
>> 16. I’m also happy to work with kernel.org admins to get this set up for us
>> if that’s what we want
>
> Consider this part done. :)
And thank you for your contribution to kernel.org infrastructure.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-22 22:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-21 11:55 Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:30 ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-26 20:14 ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Eric Wong
2021-10-30 19:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 9:24 ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas (was: scripting speedups[...]) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 22:12 ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas Junio C Hamano
2021-11-02 13:52 ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] SHA-256 Updates Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Server-side merge/rebase: needs and wants? Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 3:06 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 10:01 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-23 20:52 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 18:21 ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09 2:15 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 10:06 ` Christian Couder
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Submodules and how to make them worth using Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Sparse checkout behavior and plans Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] The state of getting a reftable backend working in git.git Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 19:00 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-25 22:09 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26 8:12 ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-28 14:17 ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-26 15:51 ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Documentation (translations, FAQ updates, new user-focused, general improvements, etc.) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 14:20 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-22 14:31 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 7:02 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-27 8:50 ` Jeff King
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:55 ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-22 10:02 ` vale check, was " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 10:03 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving Git UX Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 16:45 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-21 23:03 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-22 3:33 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 14:04 ` martin
2021-10-22 14:24 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22 15:30 ` martin
2021-10-23 8:27 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Sergey Organov
2021-10-22 21:54 ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-24 6:54 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Martin
2021-10-24 20:27 ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 12:48 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-25 17:06 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 16:44 ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-25 22:23 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 18:54 ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 13:41 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-10-22 22:06 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2021-10-22 8:02 ` Missing notes, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 8:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 8:30 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 9:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 9:44 ` Let's have public Git chalk talks, " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 12:58 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
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