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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Martin <git@mfriebe.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: changing the experimental 'git switch'
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 13:27:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwnm2418p.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da952e81-70f9-886b-42ff-2ec850f55fa0@mfriebe.de> (Martin's message of "Sun, 24 Oct 2021 08:54:12 +0200")

Martin <git@mfriebe.de> writes:

> So one could do
> git switch  --settings-from <branch-with-reflog-and-conf> --create
> <new-branch>   <commit>
> git switch  -s <branch-with-reflog-and-conf>   -c <new-branch>   <commit>
>
> "settings-from" is just an example, there may be better names for
> it. Ideally not starting with a "c".
>
> And using a name different from "copy" may be more accurate, because
> unless it is created on the same one <commit> to which the 
> <branch-with-reflog-and-conf> points, then its at best partially copied.

I like the "copy the settings from this other branch when creating
this new branch" as a concept.

One thing that I find iffy is the reflog.  Even with the current
"create a new branch NEW, pointing at the same commit, tracking the
same remote-tracking branch, having the same branch description, and
pretending to have come along the same trajectory, out of this
original branch OLD", I actually find that the copyng of reflog is
utterly questionable.  Before that operation, the new branch did not
exist, hence NEW@{4.days.ago} shouldn't say the same thing as
OLD@{4.days.ago} for the branch NEW that was created like so just a
minute ago.

If you generalize the operation to allow starting the new branch at
a different commit, it becomes even more strange to copy the reflog
of the "original" branch, which is not even the original for this
new branch.

Another thing nobody seems to have brought up is the branch
description.  We copy everything under branch.OLD.* to branch.NEW.*
and end up copying it from OLD to NEW, but I think that is also a
nonsense operation.

So, it probably makes sense to be more selective that what are
sensibly copied and what are not.  Reflog most likely does not
belong to the "sensibly copyable" set.  Tracking info most likely
does.  Among various configuration in branch.OLD.*, there may be
things like description that are not sensibly copyable.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-24 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-21 11:55 Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:30   ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-26 20:14   ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Eric Wong
2021-10-30 19:58     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03  9:24       ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas (was: scripting speedups[...]) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-03 22:12         ` test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas Junio C Hamano
2021-11-02 13:52     ` scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas] Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:55 ` [Summit topic] SHA-256 Updates Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Server-side merge/rebase: needs and wants? Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  3:06   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 10:01     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-23 20:52       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-08 18:21   ` Taylor Blau
2021-11-09  2:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 10:06       ` Christian Couder
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Submodules and how to make them worth using Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Sparse checkout behavior and plans Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] The state of getting a reftable backend working in git.git Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 19:00   ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-25 22:09     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-26  8:12       ` Han-Wen Nienhuys
2021-10-28 14:17         ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-26 15:51       ` Philip Oakley
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Documentation (translations, FAQ updates, new user-focused, general improvements, etc.) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 14:20   ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-22 14:31     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27  7:02       ` Jean-Noël Avila
2021-10-27  8:50       ` Jeff King
2021-10-21 11:56 ` [Summit topic] Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 12:55   ` Son Luong Ngoc
2021-10-22 10:02     ` vale check, was " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22 10:03       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving Git UX Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 16:45   ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-21 23:03     ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Junio C Hamano
2021-10-22  3:33     ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Bagas Sanjaya
2021-10-22 14:04     ` martin
2021-10-22 14:24       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22 15:30         ` martin
2021-10-23  8:27           ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Sergey Organov
2021-10-22 21:54         ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-24  6:54       ` changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX) Martin
2021-10-24 20:27         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-10-25 12:48           ` changing the experimental 'git switch' Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-25 17:06             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-25 16:44     ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-25 22:23       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-27 18:54         ` Sergey Organov
2021-10-21 11:57 ` [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc) Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-21 13:41   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2021-10-22 22:06     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-22  8:02 ` Missing notes, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20 Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  8:22   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  8:30     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  9:07       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-22  9:44 ` Let's have public Git chalk talks, " Johannes Schindelin
2021-10-25 12:58   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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