* thank you elon musk
@ 2022-04-26 17:37 Thomas Lord
2022-04-26 17:56 ` Valentino Giudice
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From: Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon,
they should never be trusted to anything right again.
:-)
-t
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 17:37 thank you elon musk Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 17:56 ` Valentino Giudice [not found] ` <c2359af3adfc646c2675b6edfc08ba1f@riseup.net> ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Valentino Giudice @ 2022-04-26 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Lord; +Cc: Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 769 bytes --] Twitter was proprietary before and it is proprietary now. Using Twitter required proprietary software before and it does now (unless Elon changes that, which is unlikely). It was possible to interact with Twitter with no proprietary software and it still is. If anything, the FSF should be pushing for Twitter to only use free JavaScript instead (pushing for LibreJS-compliance would be ineffective and almost unachievable) and never require users to run proprietary software. The FSF is not the "everything foundation". It promotes free software, not whatever other political cause you might have. There is no significant difference now about either Mastodon or Twitter (and the differences between the two are the same as before) from a free software perspective. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 805 bytes --] Twitter was proprietary before and it is proprietary now. Using Twitter required proprietary software before and it does now (unless Elon changes that, which is unlikely). It was possible to interact with Twitter with no proprietary software and it still is. If anything, the FSF should be pushing for Twitter to only use free JavaScript instead (pushing for LibreJS-compliance would be ineffective and almost unachievable) and never require users to run proprietary software. The FSF is not the "everything foundation". It promotes free software, not whatever other political cause you might have. There is no significant difference now about either Mastodon or Twitter (and the differences between the two are the same as before) from a free software perspective. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: thank you elon musk [not found] ` <c2359af3adfc646c2675b6edfc08ba1f@riseup.net> @ 2022-04-26 17:56 ` Thomas Lord 2022-04-26 18:23 ` Danny Spitzberg ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kaio Duarte Costa, Libreplanet Discussion list Why is this hard? A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon. Why else do they exist? It is not enough to "have a position" on twitter. Get to the barricades. I have long been troubled that FSF has devolved to the kind of NPO that exists mainly to provide jobs for the people who operate it, and not to serve a useful social function. Here we have today a clear circumstance in which they can prove me wrong. -t On 2022-04-26 10:50, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: > Em 2022-04-26 14:37, Thomas Lord escreveu: >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >> >> :-) >> >> -t >> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > > Hey Thomas, > > I didn't quite understand your message, where is the FSF failing in > promoting Mastodon? By using Twitter which has now been bought by Elon > Musk? > > If this is the case, I recommend you see the page “Is the FSF on > Twitter?” (https://www.fsf.org/twitter) > > Please clarify the points that you consider FSF's low effort in > relation > to Mastodon, to make it easier to understand! > > Sincerely, _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 17:56 ` Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 18:23 ` Danny Spitzberg 2022-04-26 18:28 ` Thomas Lord 2022-04-26 18:33 ` Jacob Hrbek 2022-04-27 6:45 ` thank you elon musk Jean Louis 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Danny Spitzberg @ 2022-04-26 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Lord; +Cc: Kaio Duarte Costa, Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2330 bytes --] Unfortunately, Twitter has a huge critical mass of users and functions as a (publicly traded) public utility. News programs read tweets live on TV. Politicians post statements via tweets too. Earthquake reports come out first via Twitter before official alerts come out - also on Twitter. As for Mastodon, https://twitter.com/gravecat/status/1518598015396818944 On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:19 AM Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com> wrote: > > Why is this hard? > > A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. > > The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. > > The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, > and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up > instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon. > > Why else do they exist? It is not enough to "have a position" > on twitter. Get to the barricades. > > I have long been troubled that FSF has devolved to the kind of > NPO that exists mainly to provide jobs for the people who > operate it, and not to serve a useful social function. > > Here we have today a clear circumstance in which they can > prove me wrong. > > -t > > > On 2022-04-26 10:50, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: > > Em 2022-04-26 14:37, Thomas Lord escreveu: > >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, > >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. > >> > >> :-) > >> > >> -t > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list > >> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > >> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > > > > Hey Thomas, > > > > I didn't quite understand your message, where is the FSF failing in > > promoting Mastodon? By using Twitter which has now been bought by Elon > > Musk? > > > > If this is the case, I recommend you see the page “Is the FSF on > > Twitter?” (https://www.fsf.org/twitter) > > > > Please clarify the points that you consider FSF's low effort in > > relation > > to Mastodon, to make it easier to understand! > > > > Sincerely, > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 2836 bytes --] Unfortunately, Twitter has a huge critical mass of users and functions as a (publicly traded) public utility. News programs read tweets live on TV. Politicians post statements via tweets too. Earthquake reports come out first via Twitter before official alerts come out - also on Twitter. As for Mastodon, [1]https://twitter.com/gravecat/status/1518598015396818944 On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:19 AM Thomas Lord <[2]lord@basiscraft.com> wrote: Why is this hard? A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon. Why else do they exist? It is not enough to "have a position" on twitter. Get to the barricades. I have long been troubled that FSF has devolved to the kind of NPO that exists mainly to provide jobs for the people who operate it, and not to serve a useful social function. Here we have today a clear circumstance in which they can prove me wrong. -t On 2022-04-26 10:50, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: > Em 2022-04-26 14:37, Thomas Lord escreveu: >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >> >> :-) >> >> -t >> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> [3]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> [4]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s > > Hey Thomas, > > I didn't quite understand your message, where is the FSF failing in > promoting Mastodon? By using Twitter which has now been bought by Elon > Musk? > > If this is the case, I recommend you see the page “Is the FSF on > Twitter?” ([5]https://www.fsf.org/twitter) > > Please clarify the points that you consider FSF's low effort in > relation > to Mastodon, to make it easier to understand! > > Sincerely, _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [6]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [7]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s References 1. https://twitter.com/gravecat/status/1518598015396818944 2. mailto:lord@basiscraft.com 3. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 4. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss 5. https://www.fsf.org/twitter 6. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 7. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 18:23 ` Danny Spitzberg @ 2022-04-26 18:28 ` Thomas Lord 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Danny Spitzberg; +Cc: Kaio Duarte Costa, Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2784 bytes --] There is nothing the software freedom movement can do to prevent the existence of malicious users or malicious server operators. All that we can do is make sure that none of them are able to monopolize a widely shared service, and that the software needed to stand up servers is libre software. So your criticism of Mastadon misses the point and suggests you aren't interested in helping bury software unfreedom. -t On 2022-04-26 11:23, Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Unfortunately, Twitter has a huge critical mass of users and functions as a (publicly traded) public utility. News programs read tweets live on TV. Politicians post statements via tweets too. Earthquake reports come out first via Twitter before official alerts come out - also on Twitter. > > As for Mastodon, > https://twitter.com/gravecat/status/1518598015396818944 > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:19 AM Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com> wrote: > >> Why is this hard? >> >> A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. >> >> The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. >> >> The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, >> and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up >> instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon. >> >> Why else do they exist? It is not enough to "have a position" >> on twitter. Get to the barricades. >> >> I have long been troubled that FSF has devolved to the kind of >> NPO that exists mainly to provide jobs for the people who >> operate it, and not to serve a useful social function. >> >> Here we have today a clear circumstance in which they can >> prove me wrong. >> >> -t >> >> On 2022-04-26 10:50, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: >>> Em 2022-04-26 14:37, Thomas Lord escreveu: >>>> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >>>> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >>>> >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> -t >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >>>> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >>>> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss >>> >>> Hey Thomas, >>> >>> I didn't quite understand your message, where is the FSF failing in >>> promoting Mastodon? By using Twitter which has now been bought by Elon >>> Musk? >>> >>> If this is the case, I recommend you see the page "Is the FSF on >>> Twitter?" (https://www.fsf.org/twitter) >>> >>> Please clarify the points that you consider FSF's low effort in >>> relation >>> to Mastodon, to make it easier to understand! >>> >>> Sincerely, >> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 3324 bytes --] There is nothing the software freedom movement can do to prevent the existence of malicious users or malicious server operators. All that we can do is make sure that none of them are able to monopolize a widely shared service, and that the software needed to stand up servers is libre software. So your criticism of Mastadon misses the point and suggests you aren't interested in helping bury software unfreedom. -t On 2022-04-26 11:23, Danny Spitzberg wrote: Unfortunately, Twitter has a huge critical mass of users and functions as a (publicly traded) public utility. News programs read tweets live on TV. Politicians post statements via tweets too. Earthquake reports come out first via Twitter before official alerts come out - also on Twitter. As for Mastodon, [1]https://twitter.com/gravecat/status/1518598015396818944 On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:19 AM Thomas Lord <[2]lord@basiscraft.com> wrote: Why is this hard? A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon. Why else do they exist? It is not enough to "have a position" on twitter. Get to the barricades. I have long been troubled that FSF has devolved to the kind of NPO that exists mainly to provide jobs for the people who operate it, and not to serve a useful social function. Here we have today a clear circumstance in which they can prove me wrong. -t On 2022-04-26 10:50, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: > Em 2022-04-26 14:37, Thomas Lord escreveu: >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >> >> :-) >> >> -t >> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> [3]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> [4]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s > > Hey Thomas, > > I didn't quite understand your message, where is the FSF failing in > promoting Mastodon? By using Twitter which has now been bought by Elon > Musk? > > If this is the case, I recommend you see the page "Is the FSF on > Twitter?" ([5]https://www.fsf.org/twitter) > > Please clarify the points that you consider FSF's low effort in > relation > to Mastodon, to make it easier to understand! > > Sincerely, _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [6]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [7]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s References 1. https://twitter.com/gravecat/status/1518598015396818944 2. mailto:lord@basiscraft.com 3. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 4. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss 5. https://www.fsf.org/twitter 6. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 7. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 17:56 ` Thomas Lord 2022-04-26 18:23 ` Danny Spitzberg @ 2022-04-26 18:33 ` Jacob Hrbek 2022-04-27 6:51 ` About GNU Social and FSF/GNU Project influence since 10 years Jean Louis 2022-04-27 6:45 ` thank you elon musk Jean Louis 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Jacob Hrbek @ 2022-04-26 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2377 bytes --] I second that, what's so difficult on making a blog post for people to spread across social media so that people leaving twitter know about libre alternatives? Like i did this https://nitter.sethforprivacy.com/kreyren/status/1518752197785362432 and got 16 people to try mastodon in 17 hours (based on responses on my mastodon profile) and that's low effort post with no resources for marketing compared to the impact that FSF would have On 4/26/22 19:56, Thomas Lord wrote: > Why is this hard? > > A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. > > The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. > > The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, > and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up > instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon. > > Why else do they exist? It is not enough to "have a position" > on twitter. Get to the barricades. > > I have long been troubled that FSF has devolved to the kind of > NPO that exists mainly to provide jobs for the people who > operate it, and not to serve a useful social function. > > Here we have today a clear circumstance in which they can > prove me wrong. > > -t > > > On 2022-04-26 10:50, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: >> Em 2022-04-26 14:37, Thomas Lord escreveu: >>> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >>> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> -t >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >>> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >>> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss >> Hey Thomas, >> >> I didn't quite understand your message, where is the FSF failing in >> promoting Mastodon? By using Twitter which has now been bought by Elon >> Musk? >> >> If this is the case, I recommend you see the page “Is the FSF on >> Twitter?” (https://www.fsf.org/twitter) >> >> Please clarify the points that you consider FSF's low effort in >> relation >> to Mastodon, to make it easier to understand! >> >> Sincerely, > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss -- -- Jacob Hrbek #StandWithUkraine [-- Attachment #1.1.2: publickey - kreyren@rixotstudio.cz - 1677db82.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Size: 713 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 249 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* About GNU Social and FSF/GNU Project influence since 10 years 2022-04-26 18:33 ` Jacob Hrbek @ 2022-04-27 6:51 ` Jean Louis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2022-04-27 6:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jacob Hrbek; +Cc: libreplanet-discuss, Richard Stallman * Jacob Hrbek <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz> [2022-04-26 23:49]: > I second that, what's so difficult on making a blog post for people to > spread across social media so that people leaving twitter know about libre > alternatives? The only wrong thing is that you post that without knowing that it was the FSF and GNU project who promoted decentralized WWW social networks similar to Twitter. So please research better, stop the rumors, and publishing whatever uncertainties without research. GNU social https://www.gnu.org/software/social/ GNU social — a free software social networking platform https://gnusocial.network/ GNU Network Services https://gnu.io/ Now is how long time already? Almost 10 years -- and you come up with information how FSF is doing nothing. The rolling stone effect is there, as after GNU Social many other ActivityPub (standard) based software followed, and many free software activists contributed to it. Now, the decentralized network is developing by momentum and by people who already know the cause. The FSF and GNU Project initiative worked well and gave excellent results. People promote their instances and other people follow. Thus it works well. You are also free to promote how to install Pleroma or Mastodon or GNU Social instances. From my side: https://gnusocial.club and https://pleroma.gnusocial.club -- so watch how it works. Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 17:56 ` Thomas Lord 2022-04-26 18:23 ` Danny Spitzberg 2022-04-26 18:33 ` Jacob Hrbek @ 2022-04-27 6:45 ` Jean Louis 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2022-04-27 6:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Lord Cc: Kaio Duarte Costa, Libreplanet Discussion list, Richard Stallman * Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com> [2022-04-26 21:21]: > > Why is this hard? > > A lot of serious people are now looking for an exit from twitter. > > The ones I see are asking about Mastadon. > > The FSF front page is a bunch of dust stuff about libreplanet, > and they evince no concerted, organized activity to stand up > instances and education materials -- to move people to Mastadon. It was the GNU project with the FSF that initiated promotion of decentralized and free software social networks with GNU Social. GNU social https://www.gnu.org/software/social/ GNU social — a free software social networking platform https://gnusocial.network/ Mastodon followed thereafter, and it is not the only software under same standard. Look at Pleroma: Pleroma / pleroma · GitLab https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/pleroma And that is good effect, the rolling ball effect, and it is due to FSF and GNU Project. > Why else do they exist? It is not enough to "have a position" > on twitter. Get to the barricades. It is already so, and people are opening instances. Mastodon is not GNU or FSF project but is result of the initiatives as given by FSF and GNU -- and initiatives are obviously successful. Please give credits where due. Research the history of decentralized Twitter-like software. > I have long been troubled that FSF has devolved to the kind of > NPO that exists mainly to provide jobs for the people who > operate it, and not to serve a useful social function. Please, minimize that kind of rumors. I can't even take you seriously. Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 17:37 thank you elon musk Thomas Lord 2022-04-26 17:56 ` Valentino Giudice [not found] ` <c2359af3adfc646c2675b6edfc08ba1f@riseup.net> @ 2022-04-26 18:10 ` Aaron Wolf 2022-04-26 18:12 ` Thomas Lord 2022-04-26 19:38 ` Adrienne G. Thompson 3 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Aaron Wolf @ 2022-04-26 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Lord, Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 411 bytes --] It's "mastodon" with two o's not two a's On 2022-04-26 10:37, Thomas Lord wrote: > > If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, > they should never be trusted to anything right again. > > :-) > > -t > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 582 bytes --] It's "mastodon" with two o's not two a's On 2022-04-26 10:37, Thomas Lord wrote: If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, they should never be trusted to anything right again. :-) -t _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [2]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s References 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 2. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 18:10 ` Aaron Wolf @ 2022-04-26 18:12 ` Thomas Lord 2022-04-26 18:34 ` Danny Spitzberg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Aaron Wolf; +Cc: Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 531 bytes --] :-) speling is not my strength. (Thanks) -t On 2022-04-26 11:10, Aaron Wolf wrote: > It's "mastodon" with two o's not two a's > > On 2022-04-26 10:37, Thomas Lord wrote: > >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >> >> :-) >> >> -t >> >> _______________________________________________ >> libreplanet-discuss mailing list >> libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 686 bytes --] :-) speling is not my strength. (Thanks) -t On 2022-04-26 11:10, Aaron Wolf wrote: It's "mastodon" with two o's not two a's On 2022-04-26 10:37, Thomas Lord wrote: If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, they should never be trusted to anything right again. :-) -t _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [2]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s References 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 2. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 18:12 ` Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 18:34 ` Danny Spitzberg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Danny Spitzberg @ 2022-04-26 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Lord; +Cc: Aaron Wolf, Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1164 bytes --] That thread is not mine, fyi Also I think any true ally of freedom and foe of unfreedom would take stock of the situation with Twitter and its current dominance On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:32 AM Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com> wrote: > :-) speling is not my strength. > > (Thanks) > > -t > > > > On 2022-04-26 11:10, Aaron Wolf wrote: > > It's "mastodon" with two o's not two a's > > On 2022-04-26 10:37, Thomas Lord wrote: > > If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, > they should never be trusted to anything right again. > :-) > -t > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > [1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > [2]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus > s > > References > > 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > 2. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 1674 bytes --] That thread is not mine, fyi Also I think any true ally of freedom and foe of unfreedom would take stock of the situation with Twitter and its current dominance On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:32 AM Thomas Lord <[1]lord@basiscraft.com> wrote: :-) speling is not my strength. (Thanks) -t On 2022-04-26 11:10, Aaron Wolf wrote: It's "mastodon" with two o's not two a's On 2022-04-26 10:37, Thomas Lord wrote: If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, they should never be trusted to anything right again. :-) -t _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [1][2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [2][3]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-dis cus s References 1. mailto:[4]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 2. [5]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [6]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [7]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s References 1. mailto:lord@basiscraft.com 2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus 4. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 5. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss 6. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 7. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 17:37 thank you elon musk Thomas Lord ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2022-04-26 18:10 ` Aaron Wolf @ 2022-04-26 19:38 ` Adrienne G. Thompson 2022-04-26 20:02 ` Jacob Hrbek ` (2 more replies) 3 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Adrienne G. Thompson @ 2022-04-26 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Lord; +Cc: Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 971 bytes --] Hi Thomas: > If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, > they should never be trusted to anything right again. > Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: @AdrienneGT <http://twitter.com/adriennegt> @GNUcgraph <http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph> 5. Let's Link Up: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: https://www.stallmansupport.org [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 1354 bytes --] Hi Thomas: If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, they should never be trusted to anything right again. Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [3]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [4]@AdrienneGT [5]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [7]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [8]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 4. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 5. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 6. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 7. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 8. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 19:38 ` Adrienne G. Thompson @ 2022-04-26 20:02 ` Jacob Hrbek 2022-04-26 20:39 ` Thomas Lord [not found] ` <ce45cd09-f6e3-d386-709d-06a3e36cdad9@disroot.org> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jacob Hrbek @ 2022-04-26 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 729 bytes --] > Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. -- Adrienne G. Thompson From my pov bcs you should be doing this by yourself through following what is happening in the world to enable wide-spread adoption of FOSS On 4/26/22 21:38, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign to > promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement - a > movement that relies on contributions beyond code. > > Adrienne G. Thompson > Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- -- Jacob Hrbek #StandWithUkraine [-- Attachment #1.1.2: publickey - kreyren@rixotstudio.cz - 1677db82.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Size: 713 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 249 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 19:38 ` Adrienne G. Thompson 2022-04-26 20:02 ` Jacob Hrbek @ 2022-04-26 20:39 ` Thomas Lord 2022-04-27 6:54 ` Jean Louis [not found] ` <ce45cd09-f6e3-d386-709d-06a3e36cdad9@disroot.org> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-26 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Adrienne G. Thompson; +Cc: Libreplanet Discussion list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1573 bytes --] My tone is harsh because of decades of the FSF doing less and less of value in line with its mission. My tone is harsh because FSF politics took precedent over the movement. I wrote positive, not negative suggestions for what the FSF can do or at least try to aim for. I don't think they will make any serious effort because I think the FSF leadership prefers the current dysfunction. I'll be delighted if they prove me wrong. -t On 2022-04-26 12:38, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > Hi Thomas: > >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. > > Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. > > Adrienne G. Thompson > Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- > > Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! > > References: > > * GNU C-Graph: http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph > * Code Art Now: http://codeartnow.com [1] > * Abertheid Campaign: http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf > > * Follow me on Twitter: @AdrienneGT [2] @GNUcgraph [3] > * Let's Link Up: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ > > * Knees On My Neck: https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 > * Rise Up for Richard Stallman: https://www.stallmansupport.org [4] Links: ------ [1] http://codeartnow.com/ [2] http://twitter.com/adriennegt [3] http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph [4] https://www.stallmansupport.org/ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/plain, Size: 1879 bytes --] My tone is harsh because of decades of the FSF doing less and less of value in line with its mission. My tone is harsh because FSF politics took precedent over the movement. I wrote positive, not negative suggestions for what the FSF can do or at least try to aim for. I don't think they will make any serious effort because I think the FSF leadership prefers the current dysfunction. I'll be delighted if they prove me wrong. -t On 2022-04-26 12:38, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: Hi Thomas: If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, they should never be trusted to anything right again. Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [3]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf * Follow me on Twitter: [4]@AdrienneGT [5]@GNUcgraph * Let's Link Up: [6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 1. Knees On My Neck: [7]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 2. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [8]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 4. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 5. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 6. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 7. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 8. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk 2022-04-26 20:39 ` Thomas Lord @ 2022-04-27 6:54 ` Jean Louis 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2022-04-27 6:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Lord; +Cc: Adrienne G. Thompson, Libreplanet Discussion list * Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com> [2022-04-26 23:50]: > My tone is harsh because of decades of the FSF doing less and less > of value in line with its mission. Your statements only bring uncertainties. It seems there is no research from your side. On what criteria are you basing such statements? Did you maybe review financial statements? If no -- how are you analyzing things? Is it maybe just by reaction? Like you think of something, and react badly, and that is your analysis? How does it work on your side? Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: thank you elon musk [not found] ` <ce45cd09-f6e3-d386-709d-06a3e36cdad9@disroot.org> @ 2022-04-27 7:06 ` Yasuaki Kudo 2022-04-27 7:09 ` Jean Louis 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Yasuaki Kudo @ 2022-04-27 7:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Sutton; +Cc: libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3090 bytes --] You know, 'twitter' seems to be about tweeting or speaking, whatever that comes to your mind. Can we have some kind of a reverse system that is more about listening and discovery? Finding out what matters to people, who are allied with your current state of thinking, etc. I think this is also related to effective homepages and search engines - can we have homepage systems that are integrated with the accompanying search engines, so that we maximize our chances of understanding what others have in mind?Rather than just HTML, we make the whole thing built up from the ground so that content will be discovered and understood by interested parties. To function properly, this kind of system will have no advertisement or any form of influence or control, as that will add noise and make the system less effective. It might be more compatible with federalism and democracy. 😄 As far as the buyout is concerned, my hunch is twitter is an uninteresting platform and billionaires can spend as much money as they wish as their latest vanity project - its relevance on society seems minimal? -Yasu > On Apr 27, 2022, at 15:36, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote: > > > >> On 26/04/2022 20:38, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: >> Hi Thomas: >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >> Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign >> to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement >> - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. >> Adrienne G. Thompson >> Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph > > I agree here, Mastodon does need content, it has that to a point as I subscribe to feeds from Sciencedaily for example, but few people interact. As far as I am aware people not exactly have long conversations on twitter either. > > There are several forums set up to facilitate discussions on how the fediverse can move forward, I am part of both. > > https://fediverse.town/ > https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ > > As a platform, or set of platforms they can't move forward unless people say what they want, and help promote. > > we need to perhaps coordinate efforts so a post from the fsf is boosted by the community, for example. but not over a period of wees but days or hours in some cases. > > I tend to avoid mastodon, as there are more people on there who seem to be anti vaccination, anti science and racist, so it doesn't help me, > > Free software is just as much about the community of developers, users, creators etc as it is about the fsf, who,among other things are trying to also enforce our licenses when they are infringed, something individual users can't do easily. > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP_signature --] [-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 665 bytes --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsD5BAABCAAjFiEEQ1CRxMj7aBsjpnlEjqkbUeJ+PZkFAmJo5EEFAwAAAAAACgkQjqkbUeJ+PZn+ gQv8CBQlURQUiuvUdL1AHOqEqd0tnpoWC4aa9haefW0EwBm83pP1KkxbwC8QeOV80NL5bMJr2XLA UXSeOUEospbXCLcwhTUAVzwC9uCanMjP6UD1YdOdMzzL/0VQC8uoAGD80QuUp9wl4Cd3TlAUWukp B1d0k5/FPhAtAAh3V/XvGobZZIyXVViLr/FC4jCzhhc3FFs8jFd+Tyl6/fx5lY7P4gCVToowWXzT rgS4IzBHO6nq1kUWtZnsTkN2VHlvCMNGGS7ob5OpnbhqvIipa/sKqnkXBYiFc+3/vHbjSSJBsIM9 QdBOGK2b08SpLJa6URYtGEZLTt1K1PUImDFrkKMtvcMk0+DjTQE/D9EmSV8pVy2N60xJdnYePYKm PL0qwuBbKHUrTQOi+OKhVpm29114r2d6WmjKrmZdG0iit7p/tC0EIDjPEzwr4lAssE4eBSqlPPE+ yB0AO55HY+r7Z4pMl+bfTro0nZqyjvYQPCERiMqNNXRYvL/LSPIb5BVFWHmC =iyF2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 184 bytes --] _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: thank you elon musk [not found] ` <ce45cd09-f6e3-d386-709d-06a3e36cdad9@disroot.org> 2022-04-27 7:06 ` Yasuaki Kudo @ 2022-04-27 7:09 ` Jean Louis 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Jean Louis @ 2022-04-27 7:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Sutton; +Cc: libreplanet-discuss * Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> [2022-04-27 09:38]: > > > On 26/04/2022 20:38, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > > Hi Thomas: > > > > If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, > > they should never be trusted to anything right again. > > > > Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign > > to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement > > - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. > > Adrienne G. Thompson > > Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph Promoting Mastodon means promoting to users to install their own instances and decentralize social network. Decentralized social networks like Mastodon, Pleroma, Pixelfeed, PeerTube, Friendica, Lemmy, WriteFreely, Funkwhale, Mobilizon, BookWyrm -- are all part of it. Join the Fediverse https://joinfediverse.wiki/Main_Page Don't promote single software, promote decentralized social networks. > I agree here, Mastodon does need content, Then maybe you do not understand the difference between software and the instance. Mastodon is just software, by itself it has no "content". Interaction with users is what creates content. There are many Mastodon instances of software installed, and it does not make sense to say "Mastodon" needs content, not for me who knows that there are so many people already participating every day. > it has that to a point as I subscribe to feeds from Sciencedaily for > example, but few people interact. As far as I am aware people not > exactly have long conversations on twitter either. It may not be the same experience as on Twitter -- but still is far far from saying that there is nothing on Mastodon. I have found friends through decentralized networks, and one can interact for hours and hours, discuss those issues not important at all like cuddling with cats, or politics, or important other issues. > As a platform, or set of platforms they can't move forward unless > people say what they want, and help promote. It is automatic. I see many instances running. > I tend to avoid mastodon, as there are more people on there who seem to be > anti vaccination, anti science and racist, so it doesn't help me, Again, "to avoid Mastodon" would mean you are avoiding specific software installed on all instances. Does that mean you prefer Friendica or Pleroma? But that is not what you are talking about, you are talking about your personal account on specific instance, which is unrelated to Mastodon as software even if it runs such software. You are talking about your choice of friends with whom you interact. Mastodon as software has nothing related to people's opinions on vaccination, science or racism. You have got it wrong. Either you don't understand what is single instance or you don't express yourself correctly. Additionally, when you interact with people, they may be writing you from quite different instance of software such as Pleroma, and you may not know it. > Free software is just as much about the community of developers, users, > creators etc as it is about the fsf, who,among other things are trying to > also enforce our licenses when they are infringed, something individual > users can't do easily. Actually not, FSF may give advise on enforcement, but they may enforce only those infringements that are related to FSF, where FSF have copyrights, and not where other authors have copyrights. Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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