From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS22989 209.51.188.0/24 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F94A1F4D7 for ; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 13:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45430 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njhJj-0002Mm-DH for e@80x24.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:02:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42114) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njbkh-0007Nx-Ka for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:06:19 -0400 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com ([66.39.4.99]:50288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1njbkf-0001td-RI for libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:06:19 -0400 Received: from mail1.g12.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB93A71E5C0; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (w135107.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [121.1.135.107]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail1.g12.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEE4B7457A4; Wed, 27 Apr 2022 03:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-75041509-90A8-44F5-B329-0248816CAE87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Yasuaki Kudo Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: thank you elon musk Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:06:13 +0900 Message-Id: <86244AE9-09A3-4E27-88E2-C0BEA221B57B@yasuaki.com> References: Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org In-Reply-To: To: Paul Sutton X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (19E258) Received-SPF: none client-ip=66.39.4.99; envelope-from=yasu@yasuaki.com; helo=mail1.g12.pair.com X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:02:01 -0400 X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" --Apple-Mail-75041509-90A8-44F5-B329-0248816CAE87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You know, 'twitter' seems to be about tweeting or speaking, whatever that co= mes to your mind. Can we have some kind of a reverse system that is more about listening and d= iscovery? Finding out what matters to people, who are allied with your current state o= f thinking, etc. =20 I think this is also related to effective homepages and search engines - can= we have homepage systems that are integrated with the accompanying search e= ngines, so that we maximize our chances of understanding what others have in= mind?Rather than just HTML, we make the whole thing built up from the groun= d so that content will be discovered and understood by interested parties.=20= To function properly, this kind of system will have no advertisement or any f= orm of influence or control, as that will add noise and make the system less= effective. It might be more compatible with federalism and democracy. =F0=9F= =98=84 As far as the buyout is concerned, my hunch is twitter is an uninteresting p= latform and billionaires can spend as much money as they wish as their lates= t vanity project - its relevance on society seems minimal?=20 -Yasu > On Apr 27, 2022, at 15:36, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 >> On 26/04/2022 20:38, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: >> Hi Thomas: >> If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, >> they should never be trusted to anything right again. >> Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaig= n >> to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement= >> - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. >> Adrienne G. Thompson >> Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph >=20 > I agree here, Mastodon does need content, it has that to a point as I sub= scribe to feeds from Sciencedaily for example, but few people interact. As= far as I am aware people not exactly have long conversations on twitter eit= her. >=20 > There are several forums set up to facilitate discussions on how the fediv= erse can move forward, I am part of both. >=20 > https://fediverse.town/ > https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ >=20 > As a platform, or set of platforms they can't move forward unless people= say what they want, and help promote. >=20 > we need to perhaps coordinate efforts so a post from the fsf is boosted by= the community, for example. but not over a period of wees but days or ho= urs in some cases. >=20 > I tend to avoid mastodon, as there are more people on there who seem to b= e anti vaccination, anti science and racist, so it doesn't help me, >=20 > Free software is just as much about the community of developers, users, c= reators etc as it is about the fsf, who,among other things are trying to al= so enforce our licenses when they are infringed, something individual users= can't do easily. >=20 > Paul > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss --Apple-Mail-75041509-90A8-44F5-B329-0248816CAE87 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=OpenPGP_signature; x-apple-part-url=992B334A-F8F8-4052-AD5F-0142894AE2E7 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=OpenPGP_signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsD5BAABCAAjFiEEQ1CRxMj7aBsjpnlEjqkbUeJ+PZkFAmJo5EEFAwAAAAAACgkQjqkbUeJ+PZn+ gQv8CBQlURQUiuvUdL1AHOqEqd0tnpoWC4aa9haefW0EwBm83pP1KkxbwC8QeOV80NL5bMJr2XLA UXSeOUEospbXCLcwhTUAVzwC9uCanMjP6UD1YdOdMzzL/0VQC8uoAGD80QuUp9wl4Cd3TlAUWukp B1d0k5/FPhAtAAh3V/XvGobZZIyXVViLr/FC4jCzhhc3FFs8jFd+Tyl6/fx5lY7P4gCVToowWXzT rgS4IzBHO6nq1kUWtZnsTkN2VHlvCMNGGS7ob5OpnbhqvIipa/sKqnkXBYiFc+3/vHbjSSJBsIM9 QdBOGK2b08SpLJa6URYtGEZLTt1K1PUImDFrkKMtvcMk0+DjTQE/D9EmSV8pVy2N60xJdnYePYKm PL0qwuBbKHUrTQOi+OKhVpm29114r2d6WmjKrmZdG0iit7p/tC0EIDjPEzwr4lAssE4eBSqlPPE+ yB0AO55HY+r7Z4pMl+bfTro0nZqyjvYQPCERiMqNNXRYvL/LSPIb5BVFWHmC =iyF2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-75041509-90A8-44F5-B329-0248816CAE87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KbGlicmVwbGFu ZXQtZGlzY3VzcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKbGlicmVwbGFuZXQtZGlzY3Vzc0BsaWJyZXBsYW5ldC5v cmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9saXN0cy5saWJyZXBsYW5ldC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saWJyZXBs YW5ldC1kaXNjdXNzCg== --Apple-Mail-75041509-90A8-44F5-B329-0248816CAE87--