From: Ineiev <ineiev@gnu.org>
To: Dennis Payne <dulsi@identicalsoftware.com>
Cc: Akira Urushibata <afu@wta.att.ne.jp>,
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: On gratitude and free software
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:39:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZQAju4gfHe9Kl8xM@desdichado> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b65f26eac0dc6afc89547a9a298bfcc15f0b0b7.camel@identicalsoftware.com>
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On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 12:47:27PM -0400, Dennis Payne wrote:
>
> The resistance to GNU/Linux comes from the term being annoying to
> say/write.
Yes---it's annoying because it reminds about a project whose
goal has always been helping people use their computers in freedom.
> Lego insists that it is Lego bricks not Legos but people use
> the shorter one. Also the blatant attempt to jump on the success of
> Linux annoyed people. Why didn't they argue this from day one?
They did [0].
> Why didn't they argue it with BSD?
BSD is not variant of GNU [1].
> Unless you are a developer, a Linux user
> may not interact with any GNU program.
A Linux user is even less likely to interact with the kernel than
with a program like jami, nano or octave.
A more subtle misconception is about the scope of the GNU Project:
it isn't just about writing some programs, it's about collecting
a complete operating system, including many non-GNU programs [2].
> Why shouldn't it be Gnome/X11/Linux or KDE/Linux?
GNU is the principal developer of the operating system [3].
> Interestingly most people do not refer to
> Android phones as Linux systems. While you might argue it is because
> they don't know it runs Linux. I think the knowledgeable don't because
> they understand that Linux encompasses the standard tools/UI which
> Android throws out.
Exactly, and this is another reason why the name of the desktop OS
should contain "GNU" [4].
> Saying people who don't support Richard Stallman are ungrateful is
> flawed.
The GNU Project isn't limited to Richard Stallman---after all, its
originator didn't name it after himself; and the actual issue isn't
gratefulness, it's ultimately supporting freedom [5].
[0] https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#wait
[1] https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#bsd
[2] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#TheGNUsystem
[3] https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many
[4] https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#usegnulinuxandandroid
[5] https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#whycare
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-04 22:23 Truth Social as an example of the limits of free software Akira Urushibata
2023-09-05 22:46 ` Valentino Giudice
2023-09-06 7:06 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2023-09-06 16:06 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2023-09-06 22:46 ` Abe Indoria
2023-09-08 19:27 ` Ole Aamot
2023-09-09 22:39 ` On gratitude and " Akira Urushibata
2023-09-11 16:47 ` Dennis Payne
2023-09-12 1:53 ` J.B. Nicholson
2023-09-18 0:01 ` Akira Urushibata
2023-09-19 0:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-09-12 8:39 ` Ineiev [this message]
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