From: Ole Aamot <oka@oka.no>
To: Abe Indoria <indoria@aindoria.com>
Cc: Akira Urushibata <afu@wta.att.ne.jp>,
libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Truth Social as an example of the limits of free software
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 21:27:08 +0200 [thread overview]
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Is it possible to remove posts on Truth Social? I am a X account owner,
and not in a target group of Truth Social (U.S. Citizens who vote Trump).
Is self-correction based on new facts a value or a bad idea in Mastodon?
Is it possible to bring a criticism of the platform Truth Social based on
the
fact that self-correction is not possible after publishing?
Best,
Ole Aamot
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM Abe Indoria <indoria@aindoria.com> wrote:
> I'm going to ignore the points about Truth Social for a bit since I do
> not wish to get into a political spat (and have no love for different
> parties in general).
>
> I understand the limits of free software. One problem I identify is
> that some people use free software not because they value freedom,
> but
> simply because it is economical to do so.
>
> Why is this a 'problem?'
>
> People who exploit the "cheapness" do nothing to promote free
> software and its
> philosophy; they do not say: "This product is possible thanks to the
> free software packages X, Y, Z and many more. We are grateful to
> all
> the develpers who worked on them while making this available to the
> public on gracious terms."
>
> I'm sorry, but this is quite a weird take to me. I hope you're able to
> see it from my POV: Not everyone can afford expensive software. People
> aren't 'exploiting' free software (or -f-OSS in general) just because
> they use something that's free. Also I'm not sure if we should confuse
> free software with free *and* open source software.
> Anecdotally, when I buy 'expensive' software (Such as Apple <Insert
> software> or in a recent case for me, Scrivener, or what have you -
> sometimes you don't have that much of a choice), does that mean I
> automatically go "This great expensive product is possible thanks to x,
> y or z?" I don't. I don't even know who wrote that software. When I see
> and like a free software (or in most cases, a FOSS), I usually check
> out the dev's profile to see if they've written anything else, but
> that's pretty much it - aside from donations for software that I use on
> an everyday basis and so on. But as is, even if I (or other developers
> of such things) weren't getting donations, someone using your own
> software instead of the x alternative is quite gratifying. *If* I like
> a piece of software greatly, I would obviously praise whoever wrote it
> and recommend it to other like minded people, but that goes for both
> free and proprietary software. But that doesn't mean I am going to do
> that for every free software, nor does it mean I do it regularly -
> everyday people often have other priorities.
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Is it possible to remove posts on Truth Social? I am a X account
owner,
and not in a target group of Truth Social (U.S. Citizens who vote
Trump).
Is self-correction based on new facts a value or a bad idea in
Mastodon?
Is it possible to bring a criticism of the platform Truth Social based
on the
fact that self-correction is not possible after publishing?
Best,
Ole Aamot
On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM Abe Indoria <[1]indoria@aindoria.com>
wrote:
I'm going to ignore the points about Truth Social for a bit since
I do
not wish to get into a political spat (and have no love for
different
parties in general).
I understand the limits of free software. One problem I
identify is
that some people use free software not because they value
freedom,
but
simply because it is economical to do so.
Why is this a 'problem?'
People who exploit the "cheapness" do nothing to promote free
software and its
philosophy; they do not say: "This product is possible thanks
to the
free software packages X, Y, Z and many more. We are grateful
to
all
the develpers who worked on them while making this available to
the
public on gracious terms."
I'm sorry, but this is quite a weird take to me. I hope you're
able to
see it from my POV: Not everyone can afford expensive software.
People
aren't 'exploiting' free software (or -f-OSS in general) just
because
they use something that's free. Also I'm not sure if we should
confuse
free software with free *and* open source software.
Anecdotally, when I buy 'expensive' software (Such as Apple
<Insert
software> or in a recent case for me, Scrivener, or what have you
-
sometimes you don't have that much of a choice), does that mean I
automatically go "This great expensive product is possible thanks
to x,
y or z?" I don't. I don't even know who wrote that software. When
I see
and like a free software (or in most cases, a FOSS), I usually
check
out the dev's profile to see if they've written anything else,
but
that's pretty much it - aside from donations for software that I
use on
an everyday basis and so on. But as is, even if I (or other
developers
of such things) weren't getting donations, someone using your own
software instead of the x alternative is quite gratifying. *If* I
like
a piece of software greatly, I would obviously praise whoever
wrote it
and recommend it to other like minded people, but that goes for
both
free and proprietary software. But that doesn't mean I am going
to do
that for every free software, nor does it mean I do it regularly
-
everyday people often have other priorities.
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References
1. mailto:indoria@aindoria.com
2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-11 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-04 22:23 Truth Social as an example of the limits of free software Akira Urushibata
2023-09-05 22:46 ` Valentino Giudice
2023-09-06 7:06 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2023-09-06 16:06 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2023-09-06 22:46 ` Abe Indoria
2023-09-08 19:27 ` Ole Aamot [this message]
2023-09-09 22:39 ` On gratitude and " Akira Urushibata
2023-09-11 16:47 ` Dennis Payne
2023-09-12 1:53 ` J.B. Nicholson
2023-09-18 0:01 ` Akira Urushibata
2023-09-19 0:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-09-12 8:39 ` Ineiev
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