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From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>
To: Caleb Herbert <csh@bluehome.net>
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Samsung Galaxy S2 for Replicant
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 13:38:39 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4l1951ow.321942@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a42708ba-b27b-1219-e7ba-0dbd0497d045@bluehome.net> (Caleb Herbert's message of "Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:51:09 -0500")


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Caleb Herbert <csh@bluehome.net> wrote:
> On 09/17/2019 09:38 AM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
>> Caleb Herbert <csh@bluehome.net> wrote:
>>> I consider the ancient Galaxy S2 decent.
>>
>> A device without GPS and hardware graphic acceleration (unless you are willing to run nonfree software on CPU)?  Or even without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth (unless you are willing to run nonfree firmware)?
>
> I don't care about GPS or Bluetooth.  I hate wireless stuff. ... I would happily use a Wi-Fi dongle over an OTG cable.

You’ve dismissed three point, but there is still one left: hardware graphics rendering.  Your common sense might suggest that it is the least important issue, but no, quite the opposite: it is considered essential for any *droid-running PC, so many programs just won’t run without it.

>> Replicant is not Libreboot, it does not require any flashing.  It is installed just like as any other Android-based OS.
>
> That's a relief, although I don't know what all is involved in rooting and changing the OS on a mobile device.  Last time I tried, it was hard for me to do.

Not to insult anyone, but that’s growing into tendency: the most extreme software freedom advocates I meet on the Net turns out to be those who actually does need even a thousandth of it.

>>> costs five hundred dollars last time I checked.
>>
>> Wow!  That’s for sure a local issue.  I’ve just checked, in Moscow you could get a _new_ Galaxy S2 for 85 $ (which I still found unacceptably expensive for a 2011 Android phone, but if someone really needs it new), used — from 25 $.
>
> Oh, wow!  I might have gotten one many years ago if I knew this!

Ehm...  Is that a sarcasm?  You’ve just called to promote ‘nophone’, have not you?  :-)

Or the wrong paragraph cited?  If neither, I have to clarify, that I did _not_ suggest you or anyone to order it from Moscow: shipping from Russia to US would be pricey and slow, benefits of new over used do not worth it.  Not to say, that a small store [0] specializing on selling unsold legacy phones might be unwilling to deal with international shipping at all.

[0] https://www.avito.ru/i137078443

To anyone lacks it available for a sane price in his locality, I am recommending exactly what I have recommended — to order it from China:

>> So if you’d really like to recommend someone to buy Galaxy S2, I suggest you just submit to necessity to recommend him to run some more nonfree software in his browser, and order it somewhere else: at Ali a ‘refurbished’ device with shipping included would be about 40 $ [1].
>>
>> [1] https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-samsuns-galaxy-s2.html

> I've been jonesing for a camera.  (Remind me again: Which Replicant device is fortunate to have at least the back camera working [without nonfree software and loadable firmware]?)

I never checked.  I you’d like me to read https://replicant.us for you, then it says that i9100, n7000 and n51xx have both cameras working with free firmware, i9300 — back only, while i9250, n7100 have neither.

> Thank you for all your help!

Not at all.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-18 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-16  2:12 Promote NoPhone Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16  2:48 ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16  3:12   ` quiliro
2019-09-16  8:23   ` “Promote NoPhone” is a path to nowhere Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-09-16  9:21     ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-17 14:38       ` Samsung Galaxy S2 for Replicant (was: “Promote NoPhone” is a path to nowhere) Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-09-17 16:51         ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-18 10:38           ` Dmitry Alexandrov [this message]
2019-09-18 15:54             ` Samsung Galaxy S2 for Replicant Caleb Herbert
2019-09-19 14:16               ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-09-20  3:38                 ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16  9:23     ` “Promote NoPhone” is a path to nowhere Caleb Herbert

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