From: Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com>
To: Caleb Herbert <csh@bluehome.net>
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: “Promote NoPhone” is a path to nowhere
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:23:26 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ftkwps3l.321942@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c1eaf6c3-277f-6e29-9244-88025c1d74d2@bluehome.net> (Caleb Herbert's message of "Sun, 15 Sep 2019 21:48:19 -0500")
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Caleb Herbert <csh@bluehome.net> wrote:
> Most people cannot access or afford decent Replicant devices.
No people can access or afford _decent_ Replicant devices: they are simply nonexistent.
A device, listed at https://replicant.us (which would _not_ fully work under it anyway), could be obtained very easily and for a laughable price, though.
> It is impractical to suggest people use them.
Here I am fully agree with you.
> F-Droid is not the answer. It is a last resort for device addicts to gain partial freedom. We should primarily suggest people to not have mobile devices
> We should teach them how to live a happy life without them, and how to do it.
_That_, not some silly ‘statutory rape’ stuff above, is what really makes RMS views startling: he is a luddite. I am hardly able to realise, how could a man who discover and devote his life to promote the most revolutionary social phenomenon of last 30 years and a man who believes that we (a) are able to and (b) should try to resist the technical progress, because besides positive consequences it entails some negative too, be the same person, but the mobile telephony is not the only point where he does so.
And yes, both mobile phones per se and ‘phones’ that you mean (that is, handheld PCs with modem, navigator, camera, etc, etc built-in) have been enormous progress. Calling people, that make use of them, ‘addicts’ is nothing more reasonable, that calling ‘addicts’ people who have got ‘addicted’ to Internet or ‘addicted’ to hot water.
> We should recognize the needs people fulfill with their phones, and offer replacements. We should show testimonies of people who do this every day successfully, and show that it is possible to live life with user respecting devices.
Well, you know: it is fully possible to live you life without Internet and hot water. I could provide you testimonies from people who do this successfully, if you will. ;-)
Luddism is a path that leads no nowhere.
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Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-16 2:12 Promote NoPhone Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16 2:48 ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16 3:12 ` quiliro
2019-09-16 8:23 ` Dmitry Alexandrov [this message]
2019-09-16 9:21 ` “Promote NoPhone” is a path to nowhere Caleb Herbert
2019-09-17 14:38 ` Samsung Galaxy S2 for Replicant (was: “Promote NoPhone” is a path to nowhere) Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-09-17 16:51 ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-18 10:38 ` Samsung Galaxy S2 for Replicant Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-09-18 15:54 ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-19 14:16 ` Dmitry Alexandrov
2019-09-20 3:38 ` Caleb Herbert
2019-09-16 9:23 ` “Promote NoPhone” is a path to nowhere Caleb Herbert
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