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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::429 Subject: Re: Samsung Galaxy S2 for Replicant X-BeenThere: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0937364366631717531==" Errors-To: libreplanet-discuss-bounces+e=80x24.org@libreplanet.org Sender: "libreplanet-discuss" --===============0937364366631717531== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Caleb Herbert wrote: > On 09/17/2019 09:38 AM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> Caleb Herbert wrote: >>> I consider the ancient Galaxy S2 decent. >> >> A device without GPS and hardware graphic acceleration (unless you are w= illing to run nonfree software on CPU)? Or even without Wi-Fi and Bluetoot= h (unless you are willing to run nonfree firmware)? > > I don't care about GPS or Bluetooth. I hate wireless stuff. ... I would = happily use a Wi-Fi dongle over an OTG cable. You=E2=80=99ve dismissed three point, but there is still one left: hardware= graphics rendering. Your common sense might suggest that it is the least = important issue, but no, quite the opposite: it is considered essential for= any *droid-running PC, so many programs just won=E2=80=99t run without it. >> Replicant is not Libreboot, it does not require any flashing. It is ins= talled just like as any other Android-based OS. > > That's a relief, although I don't know what all is involved in rooting an= d changing the OS on a mobile device. Last time I tried, it was hard for m= e to do. Not to insult anyone, but that=E2=80=99s growing into tendency: the most ex= treme software freedom advocates I meet on the Net turns out to be those wh= o actually does need even a thousandth of it. >>> costs five hundred dollars last time I checked. >> >> Wow! That=E2=80=99s for sure a local issue. I=E2=80=99ve just checked,= in Moscow you could get a _new_ Galaxy S2 for 85 $ (which I still found un= acceptably expensive for a 2011 Android phone, but if someone really needs = it new), used =E2=80=94 from 25 $. > > Oh, wow! I might have gotten one many years ago if I knew this! Ehm... Is that a sarcasm? You=E2=80=99ve just called to promote =E2=80=98= nophone=E2=80=99, have not you? :-) Or the wrong paragraph cited? If neither, I have to clarify, that I did _n= ot_ suggest you or anyone to order it from Moscow: shipping from Russia to = US would be pricey and slow, benefits of new over used do not worth it. No= t to say, that a small store [0] specializing on selling unsold legacy phon= es might be unwilling to deal with international shipping at all. [0] https://www.avito.ru/i137078443 To anyone lacks it available for a sane price in his locality, I am recomme= nding exactly what I have recommended =E2=80=94 to order it from China: >> So if you=E2=80=99d really like to recommend someone to buy Galaxy S2, I= suggest you just submit to necessity to recommend him to run some more non= free software in his browser, and order it somewhere else: at Ali a =E2=80= =98refurbished=E2=80=99 device with shipping included would be about 40 $ [= 1]. >> >> [1] https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-samsuns-galaxy-s2.html > I've been jonesing for a camera. (Remind me again: Which Replicant devic= e is fortunate to have at least the back camera working [without nonfree so= ftware and loadable firmware]?) I never checked. I you=E2=80=99d like me to read https://replicant.us for = you, then it says that i9100, n7000 and n51xx have both cameras working wit= h free firmware, i9300 =E2=80=94 back only, while i9250, n7100 have neither. > Thank you for all your help! 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