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From: Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: federated free software movement
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:33:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <39835c25-7381-1432-a079-d62a78cb7683@disroot.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <08963fd909cf95f9b08528b74ed10ffc@basiscraft.com>


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On 14/11/2021 20:27, Thomas Lord wrote:
> 
> I think the FSF should have gone in this direction a long
> time ago.
> 
> I think it is a very good idea to add to what you described:
> 
> a. Distributed decentralized business models that are NOT
>     "getting paid to program" or "getting paid to contribute
>     to a software development project".
> 
> b. Those business models aimed at spreading the personal
>     use of free software, and enjoyment of software freedom,
>     by people who don't program or who don't identify
>     as programmers
> 
> c. That includes both service and HW provisioning components.
> 
> d. These businesses should be designed to keep product prices
>     low, to increase accessibility -- yet include enough of a
>     human element to be hard to reproduce at large scale.
> 
> e. The businesses should achieve real economies of scale through ...
>     federation.
> 
> Trivial boring example: Entry level desktops, preloaded, with
> support -- and a federation of those businesses that cooperates
> freely to maintain the shared distribution they use.
> 
> Of course, that kind of thing can be infinitely specialized -- e.g.
> a federation of small businesses that provide DAWs (music production
> and performance software).
> 
> The idea is to make enough money to live comfortably without
> trying to hoard software, supporting a lifestyle of cooperating
> on maintaining and extending that software freely.
> 
> -t
+1

We could add to this that the environmental impact is that we also get 
to use older hardware longer,   I think there is some research somewhere 
on the cost making new laptops vs using older laptops for longer until 
they just stop working.

I know there are movements such as free cycle that that take hardware 
and recycle it,   this also creates jobs etc.


Paul

>> What if there was a combined Free Software, OSHW and Right to Repair
>>    group, providing ideological leadership in a peer to peer fashion via
>>    federated services (including Git-based code hosting) and an emphasis
>>    on teaching how to self-host your own federated hosting 
>> infrastructure?
>>
>>    I'm discussing this on my twitter too:
>>    [1]https://twitter.com/n4of7/status/1459522798892859399
>>
>>    And on Mastodon. [2]https://mas.to/@libreleah/107270135261193137
>>
>>    However, I'm also seeking discussion here on this list.
>>
>>    I wish to gauge the public's response before I proceed for real. Plus,
>>    I intend to bring people onboard to help me start this new initiative.
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. https://twitter.com/n4of7/status/1459522798892859399
>>    2. https://mas.to/@libreleah/107270135261193137
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-15  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-13 14:29 federated free software movement Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-13 16:30 ` Robert Read
2021-11-13 22:22 ` Jean Louis
2021-11-14  0:41 ` Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-14  0:51 ` Lohan G
2021-11-14 17:04 ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-14 19:40   ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-14 20:04 ` Miles Fidelman
2021-11-14 20:27 ` Thomas Lord
2021-11-15  8:33   ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss [this message]
2021-11-16  7:32 ` Yuchen Pei
2021-11-16 12:49 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-16 18:21 ` Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-16 19:45   ` Dennis Payne
2021-11-21  1:45     ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-22 21:49       ` Yuchen Pei
2021-11-23 18:02         ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-23 21:05           ` Dennis Payne
2021-11-23 21:24             ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-17  0:51   ` Lohan G
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-11-13 14:29 Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-14  2:03 Arthur Torrey
2021-11-14  4:18 ` vidak
2021-11-14 19:16   ` Arthur Torrey
2021-11-14 20:26     ` Jean Louis
2021-11-14 20:31     ` Jean Louis
2021-11-16  7:24       ` Yuchen Pei
2021-11-17  1:10         ` Arthur Torrey
2021-11-21  1:34           ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-27  6:28           ` Jean Louis
2021-11-29  3:22             ` Arthur Torrey
2021-11-29 22:00               ` Yuchen Pei
2021-11-29 23:46                 ` Arthur Torrey
2021-11-30  8:04                 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2021-11-30 10:26                   ` Jean Louis

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