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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: "Jiang Xin" <worldhello.net@gmail.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jean-Noël Avila" <jn.avila@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PRItime: wrap PRItime for better l10n compatibility
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:32:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqd18wm7t6.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1.1707191456010.4193@virtualbox> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:25:09 +0200 (CEST)")

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

>> Gettext handles macros such as PRIuMAX in commit 8b45c5df1 ("Add
>> support for ISO C 99 <inttypes.h> format string directive macros.",
>> 2002-07-23 12:33:13 +0000).
>
> Wow. This is ugly.
>
> If I understand correctly, then this will not even work correctly for
> PRIuMAX on Windows: ...

I think it is the other way around.  Without such a special-casing,
and producing message identifier that has "%<PRIuMAX>" in it, they
cannot get a .po source that is usable across platforms.

Imagine a hypothetical xgettext that does not have the special case,
but just does what CPP does.  Running it on a platform where
uintmax_t is "unsigned long" would have "%lu" in resulting .po for a
message that uses "%" + PRIuMAX.  But the same source compiled on a
platform where uintmax_t is larger would pass "%llu" in calls to
_(...) it makes; such a string will not be found at runtime in the
corresponding .mo file, because you started with "%lu" in the .po
file.  By leaving a special marker %<PRIuMAX> in the .po file by
special casing, the toolchain can make sure that the actual
parameter given to a _(...) can be found at runtime in .mo file that
was produced by compiling the .po file for the target platform.

So our own PRItime was a good idea for maintainability's point of
view of _our_ code, but it was not very friendly to i18n.

I can see two possibly usable approaches to make it i18n-friendly
while retaining our ability to later change the underlying type of
timestamp_t.  But neither is very pretty.

 - One is what was in Jiang's earlier proposal.

 - Another is to replace PRItime with PRIuMAX _but_ leave a comment
   to tell us that it wanted to be PRItime, so that we can later
   "git grep" for such a comment if/when we want to update the type
   of timestamp_t.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-19 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-15  5:06 [L10N] Kickoff of translation for Git 2.14.0 round 1 Jiang Xin
2017-07-15 19:30 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2017-07-17  0:56   ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-17 16:06     ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-18  1:28       ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-17 15:23   ` [PATCH] PRItime: wrap PRItime for better l10n compatibility Jiang Xin
2017-07-17 17:10     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-18  1:33       ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-18 17:35         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-19  0:57           ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-19 13:25             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-19 21:32               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-07-19 23:03               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-20 18:19                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-20 18:24                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-20 18:57                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-21 14:38                     ` Jean-Noël Avila
2017-07-21 14:54                       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22 11:21                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-22 15:53                           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-25 10:20                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-25 20:46                               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-21 22:17                   ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-21 22:40                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-21 23:13                       ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-21 23:34                         ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22  0:43                           ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-22  0:52                             ` [PATCH] Makefile: generate pot file using a tweaked version of xgettext Jiang Xin
2017-07-22  2:44                             ` [PATCH] PRItime: wrap PRItime for better l10n compatibility Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22 11:28                             ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-22 15:48                               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-24  1:50                                 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-25 10:22                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-25 20:49                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-24  1:38                               ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-24 19:09                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-25 10:25                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-23  2:33                             ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-07-23 21:54                               ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-24  2:02                               ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-24 19:10                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22 17:02   ` [L10N] Kickoff of translation for Git 2.14.0 round 1 Kaartic Sivaraam
2017-07-23  2:43     ` Jean-Noël Avila
2017-07-19  5:44 ` Jordi Mas
2017-07-20  0:50   ` Jiang Xin

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