From: Jiang Xin <worldhello.net@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
"Jean-Noël Avila" <jn.avila@free.fr>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PRItime: wrap PRItime for better l10n compatibility
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 09:50:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANYiYbG_gh82M5ccZA-DnVFr0XrCzDJYd=Q0KrDfQXGZ=2z9kw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqeft8fp5j.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>
2017-07-22 23:48 GMT+08:00 Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>:
> Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
>
>>> >> A very small hack on gettext.
>>
>> I am 100% opposed to this hack. It is already cumbersome enough to find
>> out what is involved in i18n (it took *me* five minutes to find out that
>> much of the information is in po/README, with a lot of information stored
>> *on an external site*, and I still managed to miss the `make pot` target).
>>
>> If at all, we need to make things easier instead of harder.
>>
>> Requiring potential volunteers to waste their time to compile an
>> unnecessary fork of gettext? Not so great an idea.
>>
>> Plus, each and every Git build would now have to compile their own
>> gettext, too, as the vanilla one would not handle the .po files containing
>> %<PRItime>!!!
>>
>> And that requirement would impact instantaneously people like me, and even
>> worse: some other packagers might be unaware of the new requirement which
>> would not be caught during the build, and neither by the test suite.
>> Double bad idea.
>
> If I understand correctly, the patch hacks the input processing of
> xgettext (which reads our source code and generates po/git.pot) so
> that when it sees PRItime, pretend that it saw PRIuMAX, causing it
> to output %<PRIuMAX> in its output.
>
> In our workflow,
>
> * The po/git.pot file is updated only by the l10n coordinator,
> and then the result is committed to our tree.
>
> * Translators build on that commit by (1) running msgmerge which
> takes po/git.pot and wiggles its entries into their existing
> po/$lang.po file so that po/$lang.po file has new entries from
> po/git.pot and (2) editing po/$lang.po file. The result is
> committed to our tree.
>
> * The build procedure builders use runs the resulting
> po/$lang.po files through msgfmt to produce po/$lang.mo files,
> which will be installed.
>
> As long as the first step results in %<PRIuMAX> (not %<PRItime> or
> anything that plain vanilla msgmerge and msgfmt do not understand),
> the second step and third step do not require any hacked version of
> gettext tools.
>
> Even though I tend to agree with your conclusion that pre-processing
> our source before passing it to xgettext is probably a better
> solution in the longer term, I think the most of the objections in
> your message come from your misunderstanding of what Jiang's patch
> does and are not based on facts. My understanding is that
> translators do not need to compile a custom msgmerge and builders do
> not need a custom msgfmt.
>
I appreciate Junio's explanation. I totally agree.
--
Jiang Xin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-24 1:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-15 5:06 [L10N] Kickoff of translation for Git 2.14.0 round 1 Jiang Xin
2017-07-15 19:30 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2017-07-17 0:56 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-17 16:06 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-18 1:28 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-17 15:23 ` [PATCH] PRItime: wrap PRItime for better l10n compatibility Jiang Xin
2017-07-17 17:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-18 1:33 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-18 17:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-19 0:57 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-19 13:25 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-19 21:32 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-19 23:03 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-20 18:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-20 18:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-20 18:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-21 14:38 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2017-07-21 14:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22 11:21 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-22 15:53 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-25 10:20 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-25 20:46 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-21 22:17 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-21 22:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-21 23:13 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-21 23:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22 0:43 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-22 0:52 ` [PATCH] Makefile: generate pot file using a tweaked version of xgettext Jiang Xin
2017-07-22 2:44 ` [PATCH] PRItime: wrap PRItime for better l10n compatibility Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22 11:28 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-22 15:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-24 1:50 ` Jiang Xin [this message]
2017-07-25 10:22 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-25 20:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-24 1:38 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-24 19:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-25 10:25 ` Johannes Schindelin
2017-07-23 2:33 ` Jean-Noël AVILA
2017-07-23 21:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-24 2:02 ` Jiang Xin
2017-07-24 19:10 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-07-22 17:02 ` [L10N] Kickoff of translation for Git 2.14.0 round 1 Kaartic Sivaraam
2017-07-23 2:43 ` Jean-Noël Avila
2017-07-19 5:44 ` Jordi Mas
2017-07-20 0:50 ` Jiang Xin
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