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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>, Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
Subject: Re: How to undo previously set configuration? (again)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 14:18:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r29iqsf9.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8B+hDqKnu+0tkPC42w+_6RhzYac1BxYtdyxctcARG=VCg@mail.gmail.com>


On Wed, May 01 2019, Duy Nguyen wrote:

> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 4:14 AM Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
>> It's definitely not implemented universally; each consumer of the config
>> option must decide on it (and it will probably always be that way to
>> some degree, since we don't know the semantics of each options; recall
>> that we may be holding config keys for other non-core programs, too).
>> And we just haven't retro-fitted a lot of those older options because
>> nobody has been bothered by it.
>>
>> That said, I am a proponent of having some kind of clearing mechanism
>> (and I was the one who added credential.helper's mechanism, which has
>> been mentioned in this thread).  I think it makes things a lot less
>> difficult if we don't have to change the syntax of the config files to
>> do it. With that constraint, that pretty much leaves:
>>
>>   1. Some sentinel value like the empty string. That one _probably_
>>      works in most cases, but there may be lists which want to represent
>>      the empty value. There could be other sentinel values (e.g.,
>>      "CLEAR") which are simply unlikely to be used as real values.
>>
>>   2. The boolean syntax (i.e., "[foo]bar" with no equals) is almost
>>      always bogus for a list. So that can work as a sentinel that is
>>      OK syntactically.
>
> Another question about the universal clearing mechanism, how does "git
> config" fit into this? It would be great if the user can actually see
> the same thing a git command sees to troubleshoot. Option 1 leaves the
> interpretation/guessing to the user, "git config" simply gives the raw
> input list before "clear" is processed. Option 2, "git config"
> probably can be taught to optionally clear when it sees the boolean
> syntax.

We can make it fancier, but we already deal with this, e.g. if you do
"git config -l" we'll show "include{,if}" directives at the same "level"
as other "normal" keys.

We also provide no way in "git config" to properly interpret a
value. E.g. does a "user.email" showing up twice for me mean I have two
E-Mails at the same time, or does the last one win? We both know the
answer, but git-config itself doesn't, and that information lives in
docs/code outside of it.

Similarly we'd just print a sequence of:

    user.name=foo
    user.email=bar
    exclude.key=user.*
    user.name=baz

And it would be up to some "smarter" reader of the config data to
realize that the end result is one where we have no "user.email" set,
and "user.name=baz".

But yeah, optionally having some new --list-normalized or
--list-after-excludes or whatever would be great, and presumably not
hard if we had some central "excludes" mechanism...

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-01 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-24  0:49 [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 1/5] run-command: add preliminary support for multiple hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24 18:48     ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-25  0:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25  9:39         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 10:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25 19:40         ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-26 20:58           ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-26 21:53             ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-24 22:32     ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] builtin/receive-pack: add " brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 3/5] sequencer: " brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  9:51   ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24 22:46     ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-25 14:59       ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 4/5] builtin/worktree: add support for multiple post-checkout hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 5/5] transport: add support for multiple pre-push hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:09 ` [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24  2:22   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24  8:14     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  2:34 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-24  7:43   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  8:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24 23:07   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24 23:26     ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-25 10:08     ` How to undo previously set configuration? (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 10:43       ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-25 11:58         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-26 15:18           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 14:36       ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-25 14:43         ` Barret Rhoden
2019-04-25 15:27           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 15:25         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-26  2:13         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-26  9:36         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-30 21:14           ` Jeff King
2019-05-01 11:41             ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-01 12:18               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2019-05-01 12:32                 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-01 21:09                   ` Jeff King
2019-05-01 21:15                 ` Jeff King
2019-04-24  8:10 ` [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  9:55   ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24 18:29   ` Bryan Turner
2019-04-24  9:49 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-24 22:49   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24 23:40   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-25  0:08     ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-30 21:39 ` Jeff King

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