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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	"Barret Rhoden" <brho@google.com>, "Olaf Hering" <olaf@aepfle.de>
Subject: Re: How to undo previously set configuration? (again)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 17:14:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190430211415.GB16290@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACsJy8B5j2K=RU7N+h-i9HszuYuYd+fNmAftVDW-4nJ_o5z8Sw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 04:36:40PM +0700, Duy Nguyen wrote:

> > I'm confused.  Isn't that bog-standard Git usage, not a custom hack?
> > That is, I thought the intended behavior is always
> >
> >  1. For single-valued options, last value wins.
> >  2. For multi-valued options, empty clears the list.
> 
> I didn't know this! Should it be documented? At least a quick skimming
> through config.txt does not mention anything about empty value
> clearing multi-valued options.
> 
> I also wanted to see if it's true. However, the first var I checked,
> branch.*.merge does not follow this rule. I got disappointed and
> stopped.

It's definitely not implemented universally; each consumer of the config
option must decide on it (and it will probably always be that way to
some degree, since we don't know the semantics of each options; recall
that we may be holding config keys for other non-core programs, too).
And we just haven't retro-fitted a lot of those older options because
nobody has been bothered by it.

That said, I am a proponent of having some kind of clearing mechanism
(and I was the one who added credential.helper's mechanism, which has
been mentioned in this thread).  I think it makes things a lot less
difficult if we don't have to change the syntax of the config files to
do it. With that constraint, that pretty much leaves:

  1. Some sentinel value like the empty string. That one _probably_
     works in most cases, but there may be lists which want to represent
     the empty value. There could be other sentinel values (e.g.,
     "CLEAR") which are simply unlikely to be used as real values.

  2. The boolean syntax (i.e., "[foo]bar" with no equals) is almost
     always bogus for a list. So that can work as a sentinel that is
     OK syntactically.

> > Which of course leaves room for improvement in documentation and how
> > we organize the implementation (as Peff discussed in [1]), but isn't
> > it nice to already have something in place that doesn't require
> > inventing a new syntax?
> 
> This cannot undefine a variable though, especially those single-valued
> ones. But I think for most cases, the user just needs to find out what
> is the default value and set to that one.

Having "default" is a little more convenient, but it would need to be
implemented on a per-value basis anyway. In many cases the caller of the
config code has implemented last-one-wins by overwriting an old value,
and only it knows how to restore "default".

I guess if we moved completely to a configset world, then asking for
git_config_get_string() could resolve "default" completely. But we are a
ways from that.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-30 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-24  0:49 [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 1/5] run-command: add preliminary support for multiple hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24 18:48     ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-25  0:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25  9:39         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 10:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25 19:40         ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-26 20:58           ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-26 21:53             ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-24 22:32     ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] builtin/receive-pack: add " brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 3/5] sequencer: " brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  9:51   ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24 22:46     ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-25 14:59       ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 4/5] builtin/worktree: add support for multiple post-checkout hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 5/5] transport: add support for multiple pre-push hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:09 ` [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24  2:22   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24  8:14     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  2:34 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-24  7:43   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  8:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24 23:07   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24 23:26     ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-25 10:08     ` How to undo previously set configuration? (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 10:43       ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-25 11:58         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-26 15:18           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 14:36       ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-25 14:43         ` Barret Rhoden
2019-04-25 15:27           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 15:25         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-26  2:13         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-26  9:36         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-30 21:14           ` Jeff King [this message]
2019-05-01 11:41             ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-01 12:18               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-01 12:32                 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-01 21:09                   ` Jeff King
2019-05-01 21:15                 ` Jeff King
2019-04-24  8:10 ` [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  9:55   ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24 18:29   ` Bryan Turner
2019-04-24  9:49 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-24 22:49   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24 23:40   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-25  0:08     ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-30 21:39 ` Jeff King

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