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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, Duy Nguyen <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 17:39:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190430213902.GC16290@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190424004948.728326-1-sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:49:43AM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:

> I've talked with some people about this approach, and they've indicated
> they would prefer a configuration-based approach.

I think I'm some people. :)

I agree with the thoughts that Jonathan pointed out in [1], but I wanted
to raise a few points that are more directly related to hook features:

  1. Config is resolved at run-time, making it much easier to have
     system or user-level hooks (as opposed to our current system of
     on-disk files, which require copying or symlinking hooks ahead of
     time into each repository you want to impact).

  2. Config values let you easily run hooks from multiple sources (e.g.,
     a hook specified in /etc/gitconfig, one in ~/.gitconfig, and then a
     repo-level hook in .git/config). Even with a "hook.d" feature like
     this, you are back to doing lots of symlinks within the ".d"
     directory to get this behavior.

     I specifically worry that adding ".d" directories is a step in the
     wrong direction because our solution will probably make this point
     _worse_ than whatever custom trampolines people are already using.

  3. A well-designed config schema can leave room for more
     configuration. E.g., one of the big questions with multi-hooks is
     the error semantics. But what if we had:

       [hook "pre-receive"]
       command = my-hook-cmd
       command = another-hook-cmd
       # stop running and return failure at first non-zero exit
       errorBehavior = stop-on-first
       # ...or run all and return error if _any_ failed
       errorBehavior = report-any-error
       # ...or run and report if any _accepted_
       errorBehavior = report-any-success

      Those are just off the top of my head. But my point is that by
      staking out a config section for each hook, it gives us a place to
      naturally add new config options. And we can do it on a per-hook
      basis, which I think will be important since each hook has its own
      semantics.

      Now that's not _strictly_ necessary. We could still have
      "hook.pre-receive.errorBehavior" and just assume
      "hook.pre-receive.command" is "$GIT_DIR/hooks/pre-receive". But I
      think doing the whole thing from config makes the behavior simple
      and consistent (and the backwards compatibility is easy -- if they
      aren't using the new command config, we really do behave "as if"
      they had set it to the file in the hooks directory).

So I agree with your general sentiment that the multi-hook support
is conceptually orthogonal to switching to a config-based system. But I
think it's worth considering whether we want to do something
config-based first:

  - if we introduce it later, it saves us from having _three_ ways to do
    the same thing

  - I think it provides a more natural way to express the options that
    will inevitably grow once we have multi-hook support

-Peff

[1] https://public-inbox.org/git/20190424023438.GE98980@google.com/

      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-30 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-24  0:49 [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 1/5] run-command: add preliminary support for multiple hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:27   ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24 18:48     ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-25  0:55       ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25  9:39         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 10:04           ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-25 19:40         ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-26 20:58           ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-26 21:53             ` Johannes Sixt
2019-04-24 22:32     ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 2/5] builtin/receive-pack: add " brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 3/5] sequencer: " brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  9:51   ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24 22:46     ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-25 14:59       ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 4/5] builtin/worktree: add support for multiple post-checkout hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  0:49 ` [PATCH 5/5] transport: add support for multiple pre-push hooks brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:09 ` [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24  2:22   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24  2:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-24  8:14     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  2:34 ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-24  7:43   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  8:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24 23:07   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24 23:26     ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-25 10:08     ` How to undo previously set configuration? (again) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 10:43       ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-25 11:58         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-26 15:18           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 14:36       ` Jonathan Nieder
2019-04-25 14:43         ` Barret Rhoden
2019-04-25 15:27           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-25 15:25         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-26  2:13         ` Junio C Hamano
2019-04-26  9:36         ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-30 21:14           ` Jeff King
2019-05-01 11:41             ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-01 12:18               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-05-01 12:32                 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-05-01 21:09                   ` Jeff King
2019-05-01 21:15                 ` Jeff King
2019-04-24  8:10 ` [PATCH 0/5] Multiple hook support Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2019-04-24  9:55   ` Phillip Wood
2019-04-24 18:29   ` Bryan Turner
2019-04-24  9:49 ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-24 22:49   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-24 23:40   ` brian m. carlson
2019-04-25  0:08     ` Duy Nguyen
2019-04-30 21:39 ` Jeff King [this message]

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