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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gc: do not warn about too many loose objects
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 15:03:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180716220306.GI11513@aiede.svl.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180716214539.GL25189@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Jeff King wrote:

> I don't think any command should report failure of its _own_ operation
> if "gc --auto" failed. And grepping around the source code shows that we
> typically ignore it.

Oh, good point.  In non-daemon mode, we don't let "gc --auto" failure
cause the invoking command to fail, but in daemon mode we do.  That
should be a straightforward fix; patch coming in a moment.

> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 02:40:03PM -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

>> For comparison, in non-daemon mode, there is nothing enforcing the
>> kind of ratelimiting you are talking about.  It is an accident of
>> history.  If we want this kind of ratelimiting, I'd rather we build it
>> deliberately instead of relying on this accident.
>
> What I was trying to say earlier is that we _did_ build this
> rate-limiting, and I think it is a bug that the non-daemon case does not
> rate-limit (but nobody noticed, because the default is daemonizing).
>
> So the fix is not "rip out the rate-limiting in daemon mode", but rather
> "extend it to the non-daemon case".

Can you point me to some discussion about building that rate-limiting?
The commit message for v2.12.2~17^2 (gc: ignore old gc.log files,
2017-02-10) definitely doesn't describe that as its intent.

This is the kind of review that Dscho often complains about, where
someone tries to fix something small but significant to users and gets
told to build something larger that was not their itch instead.

The comments about the "Why is 'git commit' so slow?" experience and
how having the warning helps with that are well taken.  I think we
should be able to find a way to keep the warning in a v2 of this
patch.  But the rest about rate-limiting and putting unreachable
objects in packs etc as a blocker for this are demoralizing, since
they gives the feeling that even if I handle the cases that are
handled today well, it will never be enough for the project unless I
solve the larger problems that were already there.

Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-16 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-16 17:27 [PATCH] gc: do not warn about too many loose objects Jonathan Tan
2018-07-16 17:51 ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 18:22   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 18:52     ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:09       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 19:41         ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:54           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 20:29             ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:37               ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:09                 ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 21:40                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:45                     ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:03                       ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2018-07-16 22:43                         ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:56                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 23:26                             ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  1:53                               ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  8:59                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-17 14:03                                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 15:24                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-17 20:27                                   ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 13:11                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-18 17:29                                       ` Jeff King
2018-07-17 15:59                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-17 18:09                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-16 19:15 ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 19:19   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 20:21     ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 20:35       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:56         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:12           ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:52   ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:16     ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 20:38       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 21:09         ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 21:21           ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:07             ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 22:55               ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 23:06                 ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 21:31           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  6:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] gc --auto: do not return error for prior errors in daemonized mode Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  6:53   ` [PATCH 1/3] gc: improve handling of errors reading gc.log Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 18:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-17 19:58     ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  6:54   ` [PATCH 2/3] gc: exit with status 128 on failure Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 18:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-17 19:59     ` Jeff King
2018-09-17 18:33       ` Jeff King
2018-09-17 18:40         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-09-18 17:30           ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  6:57   ` [PATCH 3/3] gc: do not return error for prior errors in daemonized mode Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 20:13     ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 16:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 17:22         ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 18:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 19:06             ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 19:55               ` Junio C Hamano

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