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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gc: do not warn about too many loose objects
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:51:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180716175103.GB18636@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180716172717.237373-1-jonathantanmy@google.com>

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:27:17AM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote:

> In a087cc9819 ("git-gc --auto: protect ourselves from accumulated
> cruft", 2007-09-17), the user was warned if there were too many
> unreachable loose objects. This made sense at the time, because gc
> couldn't prune them safely. But subsequently, git prune learned the
> ability to not prune recently created loose objects, making pruning able
> to be done more safely, and gc was made to automatically prune old
> unreachable loose objects in 25ee9731c1 ("gc: call "prune --expire
> 2.weeks.ago" by default", 2008-03-12).
> 
> This makes the warning unactionable by the user, as any loose objects
> left are not deleted yet because of safety, and "git prune" is not a
> command that the user is recommended to run directly anyway.

I'm not sure if this tells the whole story. You may still run into a
case where auto-gc runs over and over during the grace period, because
you have a bunch of objects which are not reachable and not yet ready to
be expired. So a gc cannot make forward progress until the 2-week
expiration, and the way to break the cycle is to run an immediate
"prune".

So while I completely agree that it's not a great thing to encourage
users to blindly run "git prune", I think it _is_ actionable.

But...

> This was noticed when a daemonized gc run wrote this warning to the log
> file, and returned 0; but a subsequent run merely read the log file, saw
> that it is non-empty and returned -1 (which is inconsistent in that such
> a run should return 0, as it did the first time).

Yes, this got much worse with daemonized gc. The warning blocks further
runs. And then even after the 2-week period, you still cannot make
further progress until the user steps in! I think we dealt with that in
a831c06a2b (gc: ignore old gc.log files, 2017-02-10). So now we won't
run gc for a day, but eventually we may make further progress.

So the warning _is_ still doing something useful there (it's blocking
immediate auto-gc and kicking in the 1-day threshold).

I agree that the "-1" return is a little funny. Perhaps on the reading
side we should detect that the log contains only a "warning" line and
adjust our exit code accordingly.

Ultimately, I think Git should avoid keeping unreachable objects as
loose in the first place, which would make this whole problem go away.
There's some discussion in this thread:

  https://public-inbox.org/git/87inc89j38.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-16 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-16 17:27 [PATCH] gc: do not warn about too many loose objects Jonathan Tan
2018-07-16 17:51 ` Jeff King [this message]
2018-07-16 18:22   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 18:52     ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:09       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 19:41         ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:54           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 20:29             ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:37               ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:09                 ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 21:40                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:45                     ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:03                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 22:43                         ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:56                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 23:26                             ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  1:53                               ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  8:59                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-17 14:03                                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 15:24                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-17 20:27                                   ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 13:11                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-18 17:29                                       ` Jeff King
2018-07-17 15:59                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-17 18:09                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-16 19:15 ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 19:19   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 20:21     ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 20:35       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:56         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:12           ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:52   ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:16     ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 20:38       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 21:09         ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 21:21           ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:07             ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 22:55               ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 23:06                 ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 21:31           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  6:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] gc --auto: do not return error for prior errors in daemonized mode Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  6:53   ` [PATCH 1/3] gc: improve handling of errors reading gc.log Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 18:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-17 19:58     ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  6:54   ` [PATCH 2/3] gc: exit with status 128 on failure Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 18:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-17 19:59     ` Jeff King
2018-09-17 18:33       ` Jeff King
2018-09-17 18:40         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-09-18 17:30           ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  6:57   ` [PATCH 3/3] gc: do not return error for prior errors in daemonized mode Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 20:13     ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 16:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 17:22         ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 18:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 19:06             ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 19:55               ` Junio C Hamano

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