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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: Jonathan Tan <jonathantanmy@google.com>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gc: do not warn about too many loose objects
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:22:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180716182207.GA11513@aiede.svl.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180716175103.GB18636@sigill.intra.peff.net>

Hi,

Jeff King wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:27:17AM -0700, Jonathan Tan wrote:

>> In a087cc9819 ("git-gc --auto: protect ourselves from accumulated
>> cruft", 2007-09-17), the user was warned if there were too many
>> unreachable loose objects. This made sense at the time, because gc
>> couldn't prune them safely. But subsequently, git prune learned the
>> ability to not prune recently created loose objects, making pruning able
>> to be done more safely, and gc was made to automatically prune old
>> unreachable loose objects in 25ee9731c1 ("gc: call "prune --expire
>> 2.weeks.ago" by default", 2008-03-12).
>>
>> This makes the warning unactionable by the user, as any loose objects
>> left are not deleted yet because of safety, and "git prune" is not a
>> command that the user is recommended to run directly anyway.
>
> I'm not sure if this tells the whole story. You may still run into a
> case where auto-gc runs over and over during the grace period, because
> you have a bunch of objects which are not reachable and not yet ready to
> be expired. So a gc cannot make forward progress until the 2-week
> expiration, and the way to break the cycle is to run an immediate
> "prune".
>
> So while I completely agree that it's not a great thing to encourage
> users to blindly run "git prune", I think it _is_ actionable.

To flesh this out a little more: what user action do you suggest?  Could
we carry out that action automatically?

I mentally make a distinction between this warning from "git gc
--auto" and the warning from commands like "git gui".  The former was
saying "Please run 'git prune', because I'm not going to do it", and
as Jonathan noticed, that's not true any more.  The latter says

	This repository currently has approximately %i loose objects.

	To maintain optimal performance it is strongly recommended
	that you compress the database.

	Compress the database now?

which is relevant to the current operation (slowly reading the
repository) and easy to act on (choose "yes").

[...]
> I agree that the "-1" return is a little funny. Perhaps on the reading
> side we should detect that the log contains only a "warning" line and
> adjust our exit code accordingly.

Yes, this is a real problem, and it would affect any other warning
(or even GIT_TRACE=1 output) produced by gc --auto as well.  I think we
should consider it a serious bug, separate from the symptom Jonathan is
fixing.

Unfortunately I don't have a great idea about how to fix it.  Should
we avoid writing warnings to gc.log in daemon mode?  That would
prevent the user from ever seeing the warnings, but because of the
nature of a warning, that might be reasonable.  Should we put warnings
in a separate log file with different semantics?  Should we change the
format of gc.log to allow more structured information (include 'gc'
exit code) and perform a two-stage migration to the new format (first
learn to read the new format, then switch to writing it)?

Thanks,
Jonathan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-16 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-16 17:27 [PATCH] gc: do not warn about too many loose objects Jonathan Tan
2018-07-16 17:51 ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 18:22   ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2018-07-16 18:52     ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:09       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 19:41         ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:54           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 20:29             ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:37               ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:09                 ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 21:40                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:45                     ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:03                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 22:43                         ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:56                           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 23:26                             ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  1:53                               ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  8:59                                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-17 14:03                                   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 15:24                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-17 20:27                                   ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 13:11                                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2018-07-18 17:29                                       ` Jeff King
2018-07-17 15:59                                 ` Duy Nguyen
2018-07-17 18:09                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-16 19:15 ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 19:19   ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 20:21     ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 20:35       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:56         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-16 21:12           ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 19:52   ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 20:16     ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 20:38       ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 21:09         ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 21:21           ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 22:07             ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 22:55               ` Jeff King
2018-07-16 23:06                 ` Elijah Newren
2018-07-16 21:31           ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  6:51 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] gc --auto: do not return error for prior errors in daemonized mode Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17  6:53   ` [PATCH 1/3] gc: improve handling of errors reading gc.log Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 18:19     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-17 19:58     ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  6:54   ` [PATCH 2/3] gc: exit with status 128 on failure Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 18:22     ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-17 19:59     ` Jeff King
2018-09-17 18:33       ` Jeff King
2018-09-17 18:40         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-09-18 17:30           ` Jeff King
2018-07-17  6:57   ` [PATCH 3/3] gc: do not return error for prior errors in daemonized mode Jonathan Nieder
2018-07-17 20:13     ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 16:21       ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 17:22         ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 18:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2018-07-18 19:06             ` Jeff King
2018-07-18 19:55               ` Junio C Hamano

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