Re: very specific project proposal Re: What does Elon Musk say about free software?

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I somewhat agree with Thomas.

I myself have been interested about freedom of software almost 15 years. This interests me a lot and I found myself numerous times spending plenty of hours in fsf.org just going deep in the rabbit hole. However, this can't be expected from a "non-tech" user, a.k.a the large part of the population, who indeed they'd be interested about regaining freedom but are greeted with a comprehensive and overwhelming amount of info.

I talk about fs to many of my peers and then I refer them to fsf.org to learn more. The result, lack of engagement and retention from my peers with the site. To me this isn't a problem of the user.

My take is that, fsf.org conveys a lot of info, but not effectively. Less is more, even in the education field. Notice that I am not suggesting deleting info, but better summarize and display.

I think fsf.org could benefit from better UX design.

In contradiction with my text, for me the fsf's page is great. But again, I am a tech-interested person and don't represent the larger amount of internet users.


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On Thursday, May 12th, 2022 at 18:45, Thomas Lord - lord at basiscraft.com <awrlcxwigpuchsoowgvvsnzs@simplelogin.co> wrote:


> Jean,
>
> > Thomas, you again spread Fears, Uncertainties and Doubts - FUD. I
> > cannot take your statements seriously.
>
>
> That's fine.
>
> I am curious if you think that the ~40 year old Free Software Movement
> is doing an effective job of spreading the actual practice of software
> freedom, and even the awareness of the option and what it means for
> human freedom?
>
> And if I want to point busy city officials or others who
> could benefit from changing their practices to some web page
> that will help them help themselves with that, smoothly
> and efficiently, what page would you suggest? What educational
> materials will help someone like that?
>
> How will potential users find those materials if I say simply
> "check out fsf.org"?
>
> What steps has FSF taken in recent decades that have helped
> with this kind of problem? Is the "free software ladder"
> concept meant to do this (that isn't my understanding of it
> so far)?
>
> Similarly, say, a college student not in
> computer science or anything close to that? or a
> professor who may be tempted to require students
> to use unfree software -- where can they quickly and
> easily check for a better option?
>
> -t
>
>
>
> On 2022-05-11 20:44, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> > * Thomas Lord lord@basiscraft.com [2022-05-12 03:26]:
> >
> > > All the more reason why this is a valuable idea
> > > for an organization whose primary purpose is spreading
> > > education and real world use of libre software systems.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, there is whatever the FSF is trying to do
> > > which is entirely unclear from their web site.
> > >
> > > This reminds of a few years back when I wanted to point
> > > city officials in Berkeley to some online resource where
> > > they could quickly learn about software freedom and about
> > > available software -- and I discovered that nothing on
> > > the FSF web site was at all adequate to this.
> >
> > Thomas, you again spread Fears, Uncertainties and Doubts - FUD. I
> > cannot take your statements seriously.
> >
> > https://www.fsf.org/ -- it is very clear what FSF does straight from
> > their website.
> >
> > Jean
> >
> > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
> > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
> >
> > In support of Richard M. Stallman
> > https://stallmansupport.org/
> >
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