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From: Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com>
To: Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com>
Cc: Akira Urushibata <afu@wta.att.ne.jp>,
	libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org,
	 libreplanet-discuss
	<libreplanet-discuss-bounces+lord=basiscraft.com@libreplanet.org>
Subject: Re: What does Elon Musk say about free software?
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 16:19:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <09ce2a49c9b656bc5e8548b9b390aa7d@basiscraft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B8396DE2-16BA-4167-ACAE-69A25E843ECB@yasuaki.com>

This is an opportunity to greatly expand the number
of people who use free software, and to help them
learn why it - and why resisting untrustworthy
websites - is valuable.  Thus, it is the FSF's reason
for existence, writ large.

I think they will make excuses and stay sleepy at the
wheel, so to speak.

-t


On 2022-04-28 13:31, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
> To me, Free Software also means direct action.   If you don't like
> twitter, just don't use it, make alternatives and enjoy all the
> benefits in Free Software, if one likes to use such platforms to begin
> with.
> 
> No offense but Mr. Musk's actions are pretty much irrelevant - just
> the latest spending spree on another vanity project? 😅
> 
> Twitter can just go to rot and there will be no tears shed - just good 
> riddance!
> 
> -Yasu
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 04:13, Thomas Lord <lord@basiscraft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You can probably infer his position on free software
>> if you begin by searching for the complete source
>> code for Tesla cars.
>> 
>> -t
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2022-04-27 17:25, Akira Urushibata wrote:
>>> I have seen the discussion here started by our friend Thomas Lord
>>> titled "thank you elon musk."
>>> I decided to start a new thread to discuss the issue from a different
>>> dimension.
>>> I have a question for free software supporters here:
>>> What is Elon Musk's position regarding free software?
>>> Has he made any notable statements which give us some idea?
>>> ---
>>> Elon Musk considers himself a supporter of "free speech."  He 
>>> believes
>>> that Twitter does not respect free speech enough and desires to 
>>> change
>>> that.  Experts point out that this is easier said than done; numerous
>>> articles have appeared in recent days examining realistic 
>>> implications.
>>> When considering free speech the words of George Orwell come to mind:
>>> "Freedom of thought is the freedom to say that two and two make four.
>>>  That granted, all else follows."
>>> Free software means you have the freedom to share good a program 
>>> which
>>> add things correctly and you also have to freedom to correct a 
>>> program
>>> which doesn't.  Such freedom implies the right to discuss in public
>>> problems one encounters, which is of course, freedom of speech.
>>> One must also consider the fact that free software provides vital
>>> functions which make social media platforms such as Twitter
>>> possible.  So if Elon Musk likes free speech, he should be a 
>>> supporter
>>> of free software.  I wonder whether he explicitly states so.
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-29 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-28  0:25 What does Elon Musk say about free software? Akira Urushibata
2022-04-28 18:12 ` Thomas Lord
2022-04-28 20:31   ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-04-28 23:19     ` Thomas Lord [this message]
2022-04-30  6:32       ` Jean Louis
2022-04-30 23:23         ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-01 22:23           ` very specific project proposal " Thomas Lord
2022-05-02  5:10             ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-02  9:08               ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-02 15:53             ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2022-05-02 21:42               ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-03  7:31                 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2022-05-03 10:15                   ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-03 10:48                     ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2022-05-11 10:46             ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2022-05-11 20:05               ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-11 22:42                 ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-11 22:50                   ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-12  3:44                 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-12 17:45                   ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-12 19:21                     ` p_newsletters/libreplanet--- via libreplanet-discuss
2022-05-12 21:35                       ` Please start a new thread for the "specific project proposal" Akira Urushibata
2022-05-12 22:48                         ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-12 22:31                       ` very specific project proposal Re: What does Elon Musk say about free software? Thomas Lord
2022-05-18  5:10                         ` Jean Louis
2022-05-18 22:10                       ` Jean Louis
2022-05-19  2:43                         ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-23  4:51                           ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 16:46                             ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-13 15:59                     ` Software Freedom in education (was Re: very specific project proposal Re: What does Elon Musk say about free software?) Lars Noodén
2022-05-13 18:05                       ` Erica Frank
2022-05-13 19:20                         ` Lars Noodén
2022-05-18 22:39                         ` Jean Louis
     [not found]                           ` <CABV+ff8uibmEcc2jByMVf0Au+FdGhxGbDtR1EF5yaHYy+m9t3Q@mail.gmail.com>
2022-05-21  4:56                             ` Jean Louis
2022-05-22 22:47                               ` Yasuaki Kudo
2022-05-23 15:38                                 ` Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss
2022-05-25 13:12                                   ` yasu
2022-05-28 21:44                                   ` Software Freedom in education Akira Urushibata
2022-05-18  4:53                     ` very specific project proposal Re: What does Elon Musk say about free software? Jean Louis
2022-05-05 22:57       ` Akira Urushibata
2022-05-06  3:50         ` Danny Spitzberg

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