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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, David Aguilar <davvid@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] build: add default aliases
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 01:41:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s3ee_SmY=NOeMW31D4E01-Ft9qY5wa9VhRQWrY0fo7S=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130924061830.GB6114@sigill.intra.peff.net>

On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:49:21AM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>
>> Anyway, if you are so worried about this hypothetical user not
>> noticing that 'git ci' didn't commit all the files, we could ma ci to
>> 'git commit -v' so we are being straightforward to the user as to what
>> is being committed.
>
> I do not think that is a useful suggestion, as the output of "commit -v"
> is typically too long for unsuspecting people to check carefully, and is
> redundant with the filename summary we already put in the commit
> template. And neither is shown with "-m", anyway.  I agree it's a
> minority of cases where somebody will make a bogus commit because of it,
> though.
>
> But let's take a step back for a moment. What was the goal of the patch?
> Who are we trying to help? People who already have identical aliases are
> not helped on existing boxes; they already have them. They might be
> helped on new boxes, where they will not have to copy over their custom
> aliases (but they would probably end up wanting to copy the rest of
> their config and aliases anyway).

They probably will want that, but they won't be forced to by typing
failing commands, they could do it later at their pleasure.

> People who have different aliases for
> the same terms are unaffected on existing boxes, but slightly hindered
> on new boxes as the aliases do something else.

Less hindered than in the current situation.

> People with no matching aliases now get these aliases. What do they
> expect them to do? Do they expect "commit" or "commit -a"? Do they
> expect "status" or "status -s" or "status -sb"? Are we trying for
> consistency across git installations, or consistency with similar
> aliases in systems like cvs (in which case, would that argue for "commit
> -a")? Do people who have not bothered to configure the aliases even
> care?

cvs ci = cvs commit
cvs co = cvs checkout

svn ci = svn commit
svn co = svn checkout

hg ci = hg commit
hg co = hg checkout

And somehow you think this is not natural and sensible?

git ci = git commit
git co = git checkout

I think it's as clear as day.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-24  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-21 19:20 [PATCH v3] build: add default aliases Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24  4:53 ` Jeff King
2013-09-24  5:32   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24  5:37     ` Jeff King
2013-09-24  5:49       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24  6:18         ` Jeff King
2013-09-24  6:41           ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2013-09-24  6:46             ` Jeff King
2013-09-24  6:59               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 18:39   ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-24 19:30     ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-28 22:41     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-29  3:18       ` Michael Haggerty
2013-09-29  3:37         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-30 19:33         ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-10-01  1:12           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-10-15 22:34   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-16  3:43     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-17 19:51       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-17 21:34         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24  9:19 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-24 10:25   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 11:06     ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-24 14:35       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 13:33         ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-25 14:29           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 14:55             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-25 15:08               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 15:13                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-25 15:16                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 16:05                     ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-25 16:36                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 15:21 ` SZEDER Gábor
2013-09-24 15:33   ` [PATCH v4] " Felipe Contreras

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