From: John Szakmeister <john@szakmeister.net>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org, David Aguilar <davvid@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] build: add default aliases
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:30:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEBDL5Xa2C_zXdaE+Db9Rh7o_xyF6gC-72_Nxb0u5_o4ACjuFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130924183958.GK9464@google.com>
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jeff King wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 02:20:21PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>
>>> For now simply add a few common aliases.
>>>
>>> co = checkout
>>> ci = commit
>>> rb = rebase
>>> st = status
>>
>> Are these the best definitions of those shortcuts? It seems[1] that some
>> people define "ci" as "commit -a", and some people define "st" as
>> "status -s" or even "status -sb".
>
> I feel bad about having waited for 4 rounds of this patch to say this,
> but the basic change (providing "co", "ci", etc. as aliases by
> default) does not look well thought through.
>
> It would be a different story if this were a patch to update
> documentation to suggest adding such aliases at the same time as
> telling Git what your name is. The user manual doesn't explain how to
> set up aliases at all yet, and that should be fixed.
Yes, better documentation around aliases would be a good idea.
> But making 'ci' a synonym of another command by default while still
> keeping its definition configurable would be doing people a
> disservice, I fear. As long as 'ci' works out of the box, it will
> start showing up in examples and used in suggestions over IRC, etc,
> which is great. Unfortunately that means that anyone who has 'ci'
> defined to mean something different can no longer use those examples,
> that advice from IRC, and so on. So in the world where 'ci' is a
> synonym for 'commit' by default, while people still *can* redefine
> 'ci' to include whatever options they like (e.g., "-a"), actually
> carrying out such a personal customization is asking for trouble.
I'm not sure I agree. Yes, if someone has configured their shortcut
differently, they may not be able to use the example exactly. OTOH,
shells have aliases, and while there are sometimes problems, I think
most people overcome them. I don't see the situation being very
different here.
FWIW, I'm not overly convinced one way or another. What I can say is,
in the circles I run in, I can only think of one person has gone
without setting up aliases to commit (ci), status (st), and checkout
(co). The full names are simply to long for day-to-day usage.
-John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-24 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-21 19:20 [PATCH v3] build: add default aliases Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 4:53 ` Jeff King
2013-09-24 5:32 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 5:37 ` Jeff King
2013-09-24 5:49 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 6:18 ` Jeff King
2013-09-24 6:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 6:46 ` Jeff King
2013-09-24 6:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 18:39 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-09-24 19:30 ` John Szakmeister [this message]
2013-09-28 22:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-29 3:18 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-09-29 3:37 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-30 19:33 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-10-01 1:12 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-10-15 22:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-16 3:43 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-10-17 19:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-10-17 21:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 9:19 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-24 10:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 11:06 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-24 14:35 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 13:33 ` John Szakmeister
2013-09-25 14:29 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 14:55 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-25 15:08 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 15:13 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-25 15:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-25 16:05 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-09-25 16:36 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-09-24 15:21 ` SZEDER Gábor
2013-09-24 15:33 ` [PATCH v4] " Felipe Contreras
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