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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ramkumar Ramachandra" <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	"David Lang" <david@lang.hm>, "Greg Troxel" <gdt@ir.bbn.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Rast" <trast@inf.ethz.ch>,
	"René Scharfe" <rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx>,
	"Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	"Matthieu Moy" <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
	"Nguy­n Thái Ng÷c" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Ramsay Jones" <ramsay@ramsay1.demon.co.uk>,
	"Erik Faye-Lund" <kusmabite@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Sixt" <j6t@kdbg.org>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 14:04:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s2f2RBGd0VwJaSB1FkHBXRGhrTs_sA80kcinmpzJX8UDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vd2ryueuu.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I think Felipe is using the argument that perl is declining to answer
>> the question "why didn't you write git-related in perl instead?";
>> that's it.
>
> A question which nobody asked, I presume?
>
> I think we heard enough from packaging folks that a new dependency
> is unwelcome.

What are you talking about? Which are these "packaging folks" we heard from?

> Also we heard from no regular/high-value reviewers
> that they feel comfortable reviewing additions in Ruby.

Correction; *current* regular/high-value reviewers.

> So at least for now, the conclusion is to take approach #1, i.e.
> somebody who finds "related" a good addition rewrites it in Perl to
> promote it out of contrib/ once the design issues settle (of course
> it is still a possibility that no such volunteer appears).

Regardless of what you conclude, Perl still continues to die, and by
clinging to a dying language, all we do is hurt the project.

There's tons of people that are familiar with Git and Ruby, but these
people are not in this mailing list because there's nothing for them
to discuss, because Git doesn't use Ruby. By making conclusions based
on the comments from people who do follow the mailing list
*currently*, you are being biased towards the status quo.

It's no surprise that you decided to keep the status quo.

We could change, and we would probably receive a big influx of fresh
contributors happy that they can contribute in their favorite
language. But we won't do that, why? Because you already decided
that's not going to happen, because you are making the false
assumption that things in the future can only be like things have been
in the past.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-07 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-04 23:45 What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05  0:04 ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05  3:02   ` David Lang
2013-06-05 14:30     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-05  4:13   ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-05 17:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 12:52     ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 16:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 19:48     ` Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen
2013-06-05 14:45   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06  7:26     ` demerphq
2013-06-06  7:46       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 12:24         ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 13:01           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 13:46             ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 14:09               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 14:41                 ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 15:04                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:41         ` Charles McGarvey
2013-06-06 14:54   ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 15:17     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:09       ` David Lang
2013-06-06 18:16         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:29         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 20:19           ` David Lang
2013-06-07 14:24             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 15:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 15:28                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:04                 ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2013-06-07 19:27                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:38                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09  2:57                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-09  9:16                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 23:29                         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  4:56                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:55                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 20:24                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08  2:23                       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:08                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:20                           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:06                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:21             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:16       ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 18:24         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 21:05         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 21:31           ` Dependencies and packaging (Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/) Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 19:29             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:22     ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-06 20:40       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07  3:25         ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-07 15:20           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 17:57             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:14               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:24               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:32                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:48                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:00                     ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 19:10                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 18:33                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 18:45                   ` Matthew Ruffalo
2013-06-07 18:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 19:14           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:41             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09  2:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-08  2:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:02         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:28           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 11:56             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 12:07               ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 13:20                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 17:15                   ` Jeff King
2013-06-08 17:40                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  0:10                       ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  1:17                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  2:23                           ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  2:41                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  3:07         ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-05  6:59 ` What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Johannes Sixt
2013-06-05  7:12   ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:34     ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Johannes Sixt
2013-06-06  6:37       ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:41         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06  6:44           ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:48             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:21             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 17:40               ` Jeff King
2013-06-07  6:22                 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 10:12                 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:24                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:00                     ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 12:19                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:46                         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 13:07                           ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 14:20                             ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10  5:48                               ` [PATCH] mingw: make mingw_signal return the correct handler Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:37                                 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10 20:50                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-09  0:18                   ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Jeff King
2013-06-09 20:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  5:30                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:38                         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-06 18:32               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 10:01       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:03         ` Erik Faye-Lund

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