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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Ramkumar Ramachandra" <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	"David Lang" <david@lang.hm>, "Greg Troxel" <gdt@ir.bbn.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Rast" <trast@inf.ethz.ch>,
	"René Scharfe" <rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx>,
	"Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	"Matthieu Moy" <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>,
	"Nguy­n Thái Ng÷c" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Ramsay Jones" <ramsay@ramsay1.demon.co.uk>,
	"Erik Faye-Lund" <kusmabite@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Sixt" <j6t@kdbg.org>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:24:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s2FaoL5T+eG9mKua1U5PN9SURtXOE_YE8WO8cUusf=mBw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vsj0tsnjw.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> I think we heard enough from packaging folks that a new dependency
>>> is unwelcome.
>>
>> What are you talking about? Which are these "packaging folks" we heard from?
>
> Dscho is one of the primary people behind msysgit effort, and I
> consulted with others from the circle with an draft before I sent
> the message to the list for sanity checking (fearing that I may be
> worrying about adding new dependencies needlessly).

He said he won't do it, but I said I would. Doesn't that solve the problem?

> Jonathan
> packages git for Debian and he is negative on adding new dependency
> needlessly.

I don't see any comment from Jonathan.

> It was unexpected that we hear from a pkgsrc person but
> the response was also negative.

You mean Greg Troxel? He is only one of the persons that help, and I
did shut down his argument, didn't I?

>>> Also we heard from no regular/high-value reviewers
>>> that they feel comfortable reviewing additions in Ruby.
>>
>> Correction; *current* regular/high-value reviewers.
>
> That is exactly what I meant.
>
> The code review is not only about following best practices in the
> implementation language.  If somebody who is an expert in a language
> we do not currently depend on, but who does not know how the parts
> of Git are supposed to fit together enough to judge the soundness of
> the design of new code written in that new language, or does not
> know how the tests, documentation and log messages are supposed to
> written around here, that person cannot be the only reviewer for
> changes written in that language to ensure quality standard.
>
> The reviewer pool for code written in a new language _must_ be
> seeded by some from the current set of reviewers whose judgement
> I/we can trust.

By that standard nothing will ever change. Ever.

Even twenty years from now, you will still only trust people that are
familiar with shell, Perl, and C. Because the only way to gain your
trust, is by being proficient in shell, Perl, and C.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-07 20:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-04 23:45 What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05  0:04 ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05  3:02   ` David Lang
2013-06-05 14:30     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-05  4:13   ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-05 17:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 12:52     ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 16:11       ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 19:48     ` Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen
2013-06-05 14:45   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06  7:26     ` demerphq
2013-06-06  7:46       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 12:24         ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 13:01           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 13:46             ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 14:09               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 14:41                 ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 15:04                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:41         ` Charles McGarvey
2013-06-06 14:54   ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 15:17     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:09       ` David Lang
2013-06-06 18:16         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:29         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 20:19           ` David Lang
2013-06-07 14:24             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 15:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 15:28                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:04                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:27                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:38                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09  2:57                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-09  9:16                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 23:29                         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  4:56                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:55                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 20:24                     ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2013-06-08  2:23                       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:08                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:20                           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:06                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:21             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:16       ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 18:24         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 21:05         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 21:31           ` Dependencies and packaging (Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/) Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 19:29             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:22     ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-06 20:40       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07  3:25         ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-07 15:20           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 17:57             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:14               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:24               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:32                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:48                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:00                     ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 19:10                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 18:33                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 18:45                   ` Matthew Ruffalo
2013-06-07 18:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 19:14           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:41             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09  2:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-08  2:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:02         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:28           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 11:56             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 12:07               ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 13:20                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 17:15                   ` Jeff King
2013-06-08 17:40                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  0:10                       ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  1:17                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  2:23                           ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  2:41                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  3:07         ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-05  6:59 ` What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Johannes Sixt
2013-06-05  7:12   ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:34     ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Johannes Sixt
2013-06-06  6:37       ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:41         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06  6:44           ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:48             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:21             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 17:40               ` Jeff King
2013-06-07  6:22                 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 10:12                 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:24                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:00                     ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 12:19                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:46                         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 13:07                           ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 14:20                             ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10  5:48                               ` [PATCH] mingw: make mingw_signal return the correct handler Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:37                                 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10 20:50                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-09  0:18                   ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Jeff King
2013-06-09 20:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  5:30                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:38                         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-06 18:32               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 10:01       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:03         ` Erik Faye-Lund

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