From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
Cc: "Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
git@vger.kernel.org, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
"Thomas Rast" <trast@inf.ethz.ch>,
"René Scharfe" <rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx>,
"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
"Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
"Ramsay Jones" <ramsay@ramsay1.demon.co.uk>,
"Erik Faye-Lund" <kusmabite@gmail.com>,
"Johannes Sixt" <j6t@kdbg.org>,
"Johannes Schindelin" <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:11:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vvc5puchl.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpq61xr8kpl.fsf@anie.imag.fr> (Matthieu Moy's message of "Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:52:54 +0200")
Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr> writes:
> * Ask the user to build external programs with
>
> make GIT_ROOT=where/git/lives/
>
> * or, ask users to checkout the external program as a subdirectory of
> git.git to build it (for example, clang's build installation ask you
> to put clang as a subdirectory of LLVM's tree).
>
>> But my main point is that I think it would be easier to phase out
>> contrib/ if there were a good alternate way of providing visibility to
>> "satellite" projects. [...] Perhaps ranking
>> the tools based on the results of the Git user surveys would help bring
>> the most popular to the top of each category.
>
> I think this is the most important point. A good example would be
> git-multimail: for now, the shell version in contrib/ is somehow
> considered as the official hook to send emails, just because it is in
> contrib, while git-multimail is clearly superior (unless you don't have
> a python interpreter on your server).
I was envisioning to sift what are in contrib/ into these four
categories:
(1) Ones that deserve to be Git subcommands;
(2) Ones that are useful only in the context of using Git
(e.g. hooks, completion scripts, credential and remote helpers);
(3) Ones that are no longer useful;
(4) Ones that primarily _use_ Git, not the other way around
(i.e. opposite of category (2) which help use of Git).
The first category will live next to git-am.sh (i.e. in the longer
term when we restructure the source tree into src/, lib/, etc.,
candidates for new scripted subcommands move with the scripted
Porcelains).
The second category will be in a separate hierarchy (perhaps
addons/, hooks/, ..., but I am fine if we decide to keep them in
contrib/addons, contrib/hooks, etc.).
The last two categories will be removed; people are welcome to
decide which category between (3) and (4) each piece belongs to, and
pick up to start a standalone third-party project.
The multimail tool can be in the second category. It helps use of
Git more than it is helped by using Git.
> I'm not opposed to Junio's proposal to restrict contrib/ (although a bit
> reluctant), but I think this should be done with care, at least to give
> potential users a way to chose which tool to use (really, nobody want to
> go use https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools
> to pick the right tool. It's a great list, but not a guide).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-07 16:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-04 23:45 What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05 0:04 ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05 3:02 ` David Lang
2013-06-05 14:30 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-05 4:13 ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-05 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 12:52 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 16:11 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-06-06 19:48 ` Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen
2013-06-05 14:45 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 7:26 ` demerphq
2013-06-06 7:46 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 12:24 ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 13:01 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 13:46 ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 14:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 14:41 ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 15:04 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:41 ` Charles McGarvey
2013-06-06 14:54 ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 15:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:09 ` David Lang
2013-06-06 18:16 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:29 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 20:19 ` David Lang
2013-06-07 14:24 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 15:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 15:28 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:04 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:27 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:38 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 2:57 ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-09 9:16 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 23:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10 4:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 20:24 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 2:23 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:08 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:20 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:06 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:21 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:16 ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 18:24 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 21:05 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 21:31 ` Dependencies and packaging (Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/) Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 19:29 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:22 ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-06 20:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 3:25 ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-07 15:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 17:57 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:14 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:24 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:32 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:48 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:00 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 19:10 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 18:33 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 18:45 ` Matthew Ruffalo
2013-06-07 18:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 19:14 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:41 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 2:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-08 2:17 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:02 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:28 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 11:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 12:07 ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 13:20 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 17:15 ` Jeff King
2013-06-08 17:40 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 0:10 ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 1:17 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 2:23 ` Jeff King
2013-06-09 2:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09 3:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-05 6:59 ` What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Johannes Sixt
2013-06-05 7:12 ` Jeff King
2013-06-06 6:34 ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Johannes Sixt
2013-06-06 6:37 ` Jeff King
2013-06-06 6:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 6:44 ` Jeff King
2013-06-06 6:48 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 17:40 ` Jeff King
2013-06-07 6:22 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 10:12 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:24 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:00 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 12:19 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:46 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 13:07 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 14:20 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10 5:48 ` [PATCH] mingw: make mingw_signal return the correct handler Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:37 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-09 0:18 ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Jeff King
2013-06-09 20:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10 5:30 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:38 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-06 18:32 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 10:01 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:03 ` Erik Faye-Lund
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