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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
Cc: "Michael Haggerty" <mhagger@alum.mit.edu>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Rast" <trast@inf.ethz.ch>,
	"René Scharfe" <rene.scharfe@lsrfire.ath.cx>,
	"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy" <pclouds@gmail.com>,
	"Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	"Ramsay Jones" <ramsay@ramsay1.demon.co.uk>,
	"Erik Faye-Lund" <kusmabite@gmail.com>,
	"Johannes Sixt" <j6t@kdbg.org>,
	"Johannes Schindelin" <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:11:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vvc5puchl.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vpq61xr8kpl.fsf@anie.imag.fr> (Matthieu Moy's message of "Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:52:54 +0200")

Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@grenoble-inp.fr> writes:

> * Ask the user to build external programs with
>
>   make GIT_ROOT=where/git/lives/
>
> * or, ask users to checkout the external program as a subdirectory of
>   git.git to build it (for example, clang's build installation ask you
>   to put clang as a subdirectory of LLVM's tree).
>
>> But my main point is that I think it would be easier to phase out
>> contrib/ if there were a good alternate way of providing visibility to
>> "satellite" projects. [...] Perhaps ranking
>> the tools based on the results of the Git user surveys would help bring
>> the most popular to the top of each category.
>
> I think this is the most important point. A good example would be
> git-multimail: for now, the shell version in contrib/ is somehow
> considered as the official hook to send emails, just because it is in
> contrib, while git-multimail is clearly superior (unless you don't have
> a python interpreter on your server).

I was envisioning to sift what are in contrib/ into these four
categories:

 (1) Ones that deserve to be Git subcommands;

 (2) Ones that are useful only in the context of using Git
     (e.g. hooks, completion scripts, credential and remote helpers);

 (3) Ones that are no longer useful;

 (4) Ones that primarily _use_ Git, not the other way around
     (i.e. opposite of category (2) which help use of Git).

The first category will live next to git-am.sh (i.e. in the longer
term when we restructure the source tree into src/, lib/, etc.,
candidates for new scripted subcommands move with the scripted
Porcelains).

The second category will be in a separate hierarchy (perhaps
addons/, hooks/, ..., but I am fine if we decide to keep them in
contrib/addons, contrib/hooks, etc.).

The last two categories will be removed; people are welcome to
decide which category between (3) and (4) each piece belongs to, and
pick up to start a standalone third-party project.

The multimail tool can be in the second category.  It helps use of
Git more than it is helped by using Git.

> I'm not opposed to Junio's proposal to restrict contrib/ (although a bit
> reluctant), but I think this should be done with care, at least to give
> potential users a way to chose which tool to use (really, nobody want to
> go use https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools
> to pick the right tool. It's a great list, but not a guide).

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-07 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-04 23:45 What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05  0:04 ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Junio C Hamano
2013-06-05  3:02   ` David Lang
2013-06-05 14:30     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-05  4:13   ` Michael Haggerty
2013-06-05 17:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 12:52     ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 16:11       ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2013-06-06 19:48     ` Thomas Ferris Nicolaisen
2013-06-05 14:45   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06  7:26     ` demerphq
2013-06-06  7:46       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 12:24         ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 13:01           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 13:46             ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 14:09               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 14:41                 ` Barry Fishman
2013-06-06 15:04                   ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:41         ` Charles McGarvey
2013-06-06 14:54   ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 15:17     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:09       ` David Lang
2013-06-06 18:16         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 20:29         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 20:19           ` David Lang
2013-06-07 14:24             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 15:20               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 15:28                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:04                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:27                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:38                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09  2:57                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-09  9:16                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09 23:29                         ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  4:56                           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:55                   ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 20:24                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08  2:23                       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:08                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:20                           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 12:06                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:21             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:16       ` Greg Troxel
2013-06-06 18:24         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 21:05         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-06 21:31           ` Dependencies and packaging (Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/) Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 19:29             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 16:22     ` [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/ Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-06 20:40       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07  3:25         ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-07 15:20           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 17:57             ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:14               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:24               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 18:32                 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 18:48                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-07 19:00                     ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-07 19:10                       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 18:33                 ` Jonathan Nieder
2013-06-07 18:45                   ` Matthew Ruffalo
2013-06-07 18:28               ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-07 19:14           ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 19:41             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-06-09  2:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-08  2:17       ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 10:02         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 11:28           ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 11:56             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 12:07               ` Duy Nguyen
2013-06-08 13:20                 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-08 17:15                   ` Jeff King
2013-06-08 17:40                     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  0:10                       ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  1:17                         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  2:23                           ` Jeff King
2013-06-09  2:41                             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-09  3:07         ` Johannes Schindelin
2013-06-05  6:59 ` What's cooking in git.git (Jun 2013, #02; Tue, 4) Johannes Sixt
2013-06-05  7:12   ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:34     ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Johannes Sixt
2013-06-06  6:37       ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:41         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06  6:44           ` Jeff King
2013-06-06  6:48             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-06 17:21             ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-06 17:40               ` Jeff King
2013-06-07  6:22                 ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 10:12                 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:24                   ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:00                     ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 12:19                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 12:46                         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 13:07                           ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-07 14:20                             ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10  5:48                               ` [PATCH] mingw: make mingw_signal return the correct handler Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:37                                 ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-10 20:50                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-09  0:18                   ` [PATCH] t0005: skip signal death exit code test on Windows Jeff King
2013-06-09 20:31                     ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-10  5:30                       ` Johannes Sixt
2013-06-10 11:38                         ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-06 18:32               ` Felipe Contreras
2013-06-07 10:01       ` Erik Faye-Lund
2013-06-07 10:03         ` Erik Faye-Lund

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