Re: [OT] Re: C++ *for Git*

[David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>]

"Marco Costalba" <mcostalba@gmail.com> writes:

> On 9/23/07, Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Object oriented languages creates black boxes: that's the reason
>> > why object oriented exsists and also the reason why Linus hates
>> > it ;-)

>> So please stop with this myth. And don't speak for people, I would
>> be very surprised that Linus would dislike "black
>> boxes". Abstractions are good, when used wisely, and I would be
>> much surprised to see Linus pretend otherwise.
>
> From a Linus recent thread:
>
>>In other words, the only way to do good, efficient, and system-level
>>and portable C++ ends up to limit yourself to all the things that
>>are basically available in C. And limiting your project to C means
>>that people don't screw that up, and also means that you get a lot
>>of programmers that do actually understand low-level issues and
>>don't screw things up with any idiotic "object model" crap.
>
> Perhaps I have misunderstood, but the idea I got is that for Linus
> OO brings in more problems than what it tries to fix.

I read that as OO bringing in more programmers capable of creating
problems than those capable of fixing them.

It is not the fault of OO in itself, but it is the bottom line that
counts: if it draws the wrong audience for the wrong reasons, it
better had great benefits to offset that.  Not quite unsimilar with
communism: the idea is great in principle, but the idea has no
built-in self-check.  Capitalism, in contrast, is a distasteful idea
at its heart, but it is rooted soundly in individual egoism.  Which
does not make it any less distasteful, but at least it tends to work.

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