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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>
Cc: Phil Hord <phil.hord@gmail.com>,
	"W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>, Git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Heiko Voigt <hvoigt@hvoigt.net>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Nahor <nahor.j+gmane@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] submodule: add 'deinit' command
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 23:58:37 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7vhao31s9e.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 50BBB22A.7050901@web.de

Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de> writes:

> Maybe the principle of least surprise is better followed when we
> nuke the whole section, as it might surprise the user more to have
> a setting resurrected he customized in the last life cycle of the
> submodule than seeing that after an deinit followed by an init all
> former customizations are consistently gone. So I tend to think now
> that removing the whole section would be the better solution here.

I tend to agree; I suspect that a "deinit" would be mostly done
either to

 (1) correct mistakes the user made during a recent "init" and
     perhaps "sync"; or

 (2) tell Git that the user has finished woing with this particular
     submodule and does not intend to use it for quite a while.

For both (1) and (2), I think it would be easier to users if we gave
them a clean slate, the same state as the one the user who never had
ran "init" on it would be in.  A user in situation (1) is asking for
a clean slate, and a user in situation (2) is better served if he
does not have to worry about leftover entries in $GIT_DIR/config he
has long forgotten from many months ago (during which time the way
the project uses the particular submodule may well have changed)
giving non-standard experience different from what other project
participants would get.

If there were a sane workflow where it makes sense to frequently run
"deinit" followed by some operation followed by "init", it may be
helpful to have an option to keep the other customization.  And one
consideration when implementing that "deinit --keep-customization"
option might be to introduce the submodule.$name.activated boolean;
that way, the operation can keep the customized upstream URL.

In any case, it needs to be shown that such a workflow exists in the
first place to justify "deinit --keep-customization".  I think the
default should be to remove the submodule.$name section.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-03  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22 16:34 [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
     [not found] ` <CABURp0pqg7XC6makK2OcundMabV9AtcBNGNK6Q0TMZfJbt3anw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-22 22:55   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 18:12     ` Phil Hord
2012-10-25  1:12       ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 13:37         ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 19:16 ` Nahor
2012-10-23 19:44   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 20:44     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 21:57       ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 19:15         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-25  0:53           ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 20:48             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-28 21:16               ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 21:59               ` Shawn Pearce
2012-10-28 22:34                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29  5:34                   ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 10:45                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 10:58                       ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 11:29                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 11:43                           ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 17:38                             ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 21:36                               ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 22:21                                 ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 22:27                                   ` Jeff King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  7:34                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-09 16:29                                         ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:02                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:04                                             ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 19:20                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 21:31                                                 ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 22:00                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  0:49                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-20  1:16                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  5:39                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-20 12:19                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20 19:52                                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-23 15:55                                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-23 16:23                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 16:30                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 17:54                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] git-submodule init: Record submodule.<name>.branch in repository config W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:19                                                                     ` Jens Lehmann
2012-11-28  0:40                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 17:53                                                                       ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 18:17                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 23:52                                                                         ` Phil Hord
2012-12-01 12:48                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 15:42                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 15:56                                                                           ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:37                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:45                                                                             ` [PATCH] submodule: add 'deinit' command Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02  2:00                                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02 19:55                                                                                 ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-03  7:58                                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-12-04 21:48                                                                                     ` [PATCH v2] " Jens Lehmann
2012-12-04 23:06                                                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:08                                                                                       ` Michael J Gruber
2012-12-12 17:22                                                                                         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 19:32                                                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:25                                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 22:34                                                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:09                                                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 23:35                                                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-13  0:28                                                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-13 15:47                                                                                               ` Marc Branchaud
2012-12-01 15:38                                                                         ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:30                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 17:25                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 17:49                                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 18:04                                                                                 ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 18:16                                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:09                                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 20:29                                                                                       ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02 21:11                                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:54                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 15:38                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] git-submodule update: Add --branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:51                                                                     ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 20:21                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:31                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:04                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 19:16                                                                     ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:01                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 21:18                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:28                                                                   ` Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28  2:42                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 18:51                                                                       ` Phil Hord
2012-11-23 17:24                                                             ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option Sascha Cunz
2012-11-23 16:03                                                         ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 13:09                                           ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option (summary) W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 16:53                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                               ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:12                                                 ` [RFC] git-submodule update: Add --commit option W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:21                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:27                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 19:13                                                 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-30  1:11                                                   ` Phil Hord
2012-11-30  3:27                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                       ` [PATCH v6 0/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 1/4] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 19:30                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-04  0:17                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                               ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 17:43                                                                   ` Phil Hord
2012-12-12 19:54                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:02                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                       ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion wking
2012-12-21  8:20                                                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-12-21 11:04                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules wking
2012-12-19 17:43                                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-21  8:18                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Heiko Voigt
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-12  5:42                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:24                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 18:19                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:44                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 2/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 16:46                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-03 18:15                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 18:38                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 20:29                                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 3/4] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 4/4] submodule update: add submodule.<name>.remote config option W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:32                                                       ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Jens Lehmann
2012-11-10 18:44                                         ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-11-11 10:33                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-11 15:00                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:30                                               ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 19:42                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 20:08                                               ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                       ` <20121109104607.GC4406@ftbfs.org>
2012-11-10 19:11                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] git-submodule foreach: export .gitmodules settings as variables W. Trevor King
2012-11-09 16:45                                       ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:21                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] git-submodule: Motivate --record with an example use case W. Trevor King
2012-10-25 22:14         ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 14:00           ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 21:45     ` [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules Nahor
2012-10-23 20:36   ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-23 20:55     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 22:02     ` Nahor
2012-10-24 19:10       ` Jens Lehmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-28 18:28 [PATCH] submodule update: document exisiting -r form for --rebase W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano

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