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From: "W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>
To: Phil Hord <phil.hord@gmail.com>
Cc: Git <git@vger.kernel.org>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Heiko Voigt <hvoigt@hvoigt.net>, Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>,
	Nahor <nahor.j+gmane@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:27:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121130032719.GE29257@odin.tremily.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABURp0piLAG+hEsav-uro+nq9ZRZ9CFFjVG8VKYk3ZtYvRi8=A@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 08:11:20PM -0500, Phil Hord wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM, W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us> wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 01:29:12PM -0500, Phil Hord wrote:
> >> For that reason, I don't like the --pull switch since it implies a
> >> fetch, but I will not always want to do a fetch.
> >
> >   $ git submodule update --remote --no-fetch
> >
> > will not fetch the submodule remotes.
> 
> This seems precisely backwards to me. Why not use
> 
>   $ git submodule update --remote --fetch
> 
> to do your "default" behavior instead?   I suppose I am arguing
> against the tide of the dominant workflow, but the fetch-by-default
> idea needlessly conflates two primitive operations:  "float" and
> "fetch".

Because --no-fetch is the existing option, and if it ain't broke… ;).

> >> I don't know which remote I should be tracking, though.  I suppose
> >> it is 'origin' for now, but maybe it is just whatever
> >> $superproject's HEAD's remote-tracking branch indicates.
> >
> > With the --remote series, I always use "origin" because that's what
> > `submodule add` should be setting up.  If people want to change that
> > up by hand, we may need a submodule.<name>.remote configuration
> > option.
> 
> I've always felt that the "origin" defaults are broken and are simply
> being ignored because most users do not trip over them.  But ISTR that
> submodule commands use the remote indicated by the superproject's
> current remote-tracking configuration, with a fallback to 'origin' if
> there is none.  Sort of a "best effort" algorithm, I think.  Am I
> remembering that wrong?

The current code uses a bare "git-fetch".  I'm not sure what that
defaults to if you're on a detached head.  If it bothers you, I'm fine
adding the submodule.<name>.remote option in v6.

> >> I am not sure I want the gitlinks in superproject to update automatically
> >> in the index, but I definitely do not want to automatically create a commit
> >> for them.
> >
> > Commits are dissabled by default (see my recent --commit RFC for how
> > they would be enabled).
> >
> >> But I really don't want to figure out how to handle submodule
> >> collisions during a merge (or rebase!) of my superproject with changes that
> >> someone else auto-committed in his local $superproject as he and I
> >> arbitrarily floated up the upstream independently.  There is nothing but
> >> loathing down that path.
> >
> > This is true.  I'm not sure how gitlink collisions are currently
> > handled…
> 
> They've always been trouble for me.  But it may be that I am ignorant.

I haven't dealt with any gitlink merges, but I think that supporting
easy gitlink merges is orthogonal to this --remote option.  For simple
cases like "autocommitted submodule floats", one of the conflicting
gitlinks will be an ancestor of the other, so it should be easy to
automate that merge.

Cheers,
Trevor

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-30  3:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22 16:34 [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
     [not found] ` <CABURp0pqg7XC6makK2OcundMabV9AtcBNGNK6Q0TMZfJbt3anw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-22 22:55   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 18:12     ` Phil Hord
2012-10-25  1:12       ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 13:37         ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 19:16 ` Nahor
2012-10-23 19:44   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 20:44     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 21:57       ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 19:15         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-25  0:53           ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 20:48             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-28 21:16               ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 21:59               ` Shawn Pearce
2012-10-28 22:34                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29  5:34                   ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 10:45                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 10:58                       ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 11:29                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 11:43                           ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 17:38                             ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 21:36                               ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 22:21                                 ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 22:27                                   ` Jeff King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  7:34                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-09 16:29                                         ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:02                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:04                                             ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 19:20                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 21:31                                                 ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 22:00                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  0:49                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-20  1:16                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  5:39                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-20 12:19                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20 19:52                                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-23 15:55                                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-23 16:23                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 16:30                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 17:54                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] git-submodule init: Record submodule.<name>.branch in repository config W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:19                                                                     ` Jens Lehmann
2012-11-28  0:40                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 17:53                                                                       ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 18:17                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 23:52                                                                         ` Phil Hord
2012-12-01 12:48                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 15:42                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 15:56                                                                           ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:37                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:45                                                                             ` [PATCH] submodule: add 'deinit' command Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02  2:00                                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02 19:55                                                                                 ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-03  7:58                                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-04 21:48                                                                                     ` [PATCH v2] " Jens Lehmann
2012-12-04 23:06                                                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:08                                                                                       ` Michael J Gruber
2012-12-12 17:22                                                                                         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 19:32                                                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:25                                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 22:34                                                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:09                                                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 23:35                                                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-13  0:28                                                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-13 15:47                                                                                               ` Marc Branchaud
2012-12-01 15:38                                                                         ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:30                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 17:25                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 17:49                                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 18:04                                                                                 ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 18:16                                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:09                                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 20:29                                                                                       ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02 21:11                                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:54                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 15:38                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] git-submodule update: Add --branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:51                                                                     ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 20:21                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:31                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:04                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 19:16                                                                     ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:01                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 21:18                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:28                                                                   ` Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28  2:42                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 18:51                                                                       ` Phil Hord
2012-11-23 17:24                                                             ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option Sascha Cunz
2012-11-23 16:03                                                         ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 13:09                                           ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option (summary) W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 16:53                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                               ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:12                                                 ` [RFC] git-submodule update: Add --commit option W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:21                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:27                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 19:13                                                 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-30  1:11                                                   ` Phil Hord
2012-11-30  3:27                                                     ` W. Trevor King [this message]
2012-12-02  3:17                                                       ` [PATCH v6 0/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 1/4] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 19:30                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-04  0:17                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                               ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 17:43                                                                   ` Phil Hord
2012-12-12 19:54                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:02                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                       ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion wking
2012-12-21  8:20                                                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-12-21 11:04                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules wking
2012-12-19 17:43                                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-21  8:18                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Heiko Voigt
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-12  5:42                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:24                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 18:19                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:44                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 2/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 16:46                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-03 18:15                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 18:38                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 20:29                                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 3/4] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 4/4] submodule update: add submodule.<name>.remote config option W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:32                                                       ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Jens Lehmann
2012-11-10 18:44                                         ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-11-11 10:33                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-11 15:00                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:30                                               ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 19:42                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 20:08                                               ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                       ` <20121109104607.GC4406@ftbfs.org>
2012-11-10 19:11                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] git-submodule foreach: export .gitmodules settings as variables W. Trevor King
2012-11-09 16:45                                       ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:21                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] git-submodule: Motivate --record with an example use case W. Trevor King
2012-10-25 22:14         ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 14:00           ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 21:45     ` [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules Nahor
2012-10-23 20:36   ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-23 20:55     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 22:02     ` Nahor
2012-10-24 19:10       ` Jens Lehmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-28 18:28 [PATCH] submodule update: document exisiting -r form for --rebase W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano

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