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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>
Cc: Heiko Voigt <hvoigt@hvoigt.net>, Git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Phil Hord <phil.hord@gmail.com>,
	Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>,
	Jens Lehmann <Jens.Lehmann@web.de>,
	Nahor <nahor.j+gmane@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:39:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7v1ufou92h.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121120011628.GD321@odin.tremily.us> (W. Trevor King's message of "Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:16:28 -0500")

"W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us> writes:

> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 04:49:09PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> "W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us> writes:
>> ...
>> > I think it's best to have users craft their own commit messages
>> > explaining why the branch was updated.  That said, an auto-generated
>> > hint (a la "git merge") would probably be a useful extra feature.
>> 
>> I am not quite sure I agree.  When the project says "Use the tip of
>> 'bar' branch for the submodule 'foo'" at the top-level, does an
>> individual user who is not working on the submodule 'foo' but merely
>> is using it have any clue as to why the submodule's 'foo' branch
>> 'foo' moved, or does he necessarily even care?
>
> If he doesn't care, why is he updating the submodule gitlink?

He may not be updating the gitlink with "git add foo" at the
top-level superproject level.  He is just using that submodule as
part of the larger whole as he is working on either the top-level or
some other submodule.  And checkout of 'foo' is necessary in the
working tree for him to work in the larger context of the project,
and 'foo' is set to float at the tip of its 'bar' branch.  And that
checkout results in a commit that is different from the commit the
gitlink suggests, perhaps because somebody worked in 'foo' submodule
and advanced the tip of branch 'bar'.

So:

 - at the top-level superproject level, entry 'foo' in the HEAD tree
   points at an older commit;

 - 'foo/.git/HEAD' points at refs/heads/bar, which matches the
   working tree of 'foo' and the index foo/.git/index..

I am not sure what should happen to the entry 'foo' in the index of
the top-level superproject after such a 'submodule floats at the
tip' checkout, but I imagine that it must match the contents of
foo/.git/HEAD's tree.  Otherwise, "git diff" at the top-level would
report local changes.

When committing his work at the top-level, he will see that 'foo'
gitlink is updated in that commit; after all that combination is the
context in which his work was done.

Or are you envisioning that such a check-out will and should show a
local difference at the submodule 'foo' by leaving the index of the
top-level superproject unchanged, and the user should refrain from
using "git commit -a" to avoid having to describe the changes made
on the 'bar' branch in the meantime in his top-level commit?  That
is certainly fine by me (I am no a heavy submodule user to begin
with), but I am not sure if that is useful and helpful to the
submodule users.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-20  5:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-22 16:34 [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
     [not found] ` <CABURp0pqg7XC6makK2OcundMabV9AtcBNGNK6Q0TMZfJbt3anw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-22 22:55   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 18:12     ` Phil Hord
2012-10-25  1:12       ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 13:37         ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 19:16 ` Nahor
2012-10-23 19:44   ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 20:44     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 21:57       ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-24 19:15         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-25  0:53           ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 20:48             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-28 21:16               ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-28 21:59               ` Shawn Pearce
2012-10-28 22:34                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29  5:34                   ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 10:45                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 10:58                       ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 11:29                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-29 11:43                           ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 17:38                             ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 21:36                               ` Jeff King
2012-10-29 22:21                                 ` Phil Hord
2012-10-29 22:27                                   ` Jeff King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  7:34                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-09 16:29                                         ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:02                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:04                                             ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 19:20                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 21:31                                                 ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-17 22:00                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  0:49                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-20  1:16                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20  5:39                                                     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2012-11-20 12:19                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-20 19:52                                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-23 15:55                                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-23 16:23                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 16:30                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-23 17:54                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] git-submodule init: Record submodule.<name>.branch in repository config W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:19                                                                     ` Jens Lehmann
2012-11-28  0:40                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 17:53                                                                       ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 18:17                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-30 23:52                                                                         ` Phil Hord
2012-12-01 12:48                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 15:42                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 15:56                                                                           ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:37                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:45                                                                             ` [PATCH] submodule: add 'deinit' command Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02  2:00                                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02 19:55                                                                                 ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-03  7:58                                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-04 21:48                                                                                     ` [PATCH v2] " Jens Lehmann
2012-12-04 23:06                                                                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:08                                                                                       ` Michael J Gruber
2012-12-12 17:22                                                                                         ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 19:32                                                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:25                                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-12 22:34                                                                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:09                                                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 23:35                                                                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-13  0:28                                                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-13 15:47                                                                                               ` Marc Branchaud
2012-12-01 15:38                                                                         ` [RFC] remove/deprecate 'submodule init' and 'sync' Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 16:30                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 17:25                                                                             ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 17:49                                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 18:04                                                                                 ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-01 18:16                                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:09                                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 20:29                                                                                       ` Jens Lehmann
2012-12-02 21:11                                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-01 16:54                                                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 15:38                                                                           ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 3/4] git-submodule update: Add --branch option W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:51                                                                     ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 20:21                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-26 21:00                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 18:31                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:04                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 19:16                                                                     ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-27 19:01                                                                 ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 21:18                                                                   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Hack fix for 'submodule update does not fetch already present commits' W. Trevor King
2012-11-27 23:28                                                                   ` Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28  2:42                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 18:51                                                                       ` Phil Hord
2012-11-23 17:24                                                             ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option Sascha Cunz
2012-11-23 16:03                                                         ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 13:09                                           ` [PATCH v4 0/4] git-submodule add: Add --local-branch option (summary) W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 16:53                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                               ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] " W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:30                                                 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:12                                                 ` [RFC] git-submodule update: Add --commit option W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:21                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 16:27                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-29 19:13                                                 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-11-30  1:11                                                   ` Phil Hord
2012-11-30  3:27                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                       ` [PATCH v6 0/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 1/4] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 19:30                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-04  0:17                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                               ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion W. Trevor King
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 17:43                                                                   ` Phil Hord
2012-12-12 19:54                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 23:02                                                                     ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                       ` [PATCH v8 0/3] " wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 1/3] submodule: add get_submodule_config helper funtion wking
2012-12-21  8:20                                                                           ` Heiko Voigt
2012-12-21 11:04                                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 2/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes wking
2012-12-19 16:03                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules wking
2012-12-19 17:43                                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-21  8:18                                                                         ` [PATCH v8 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Heiko Voigt
2012-12-11 18:58                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-12  5:42                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 15:24                                                                   ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-12 18:19                                                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-12 22:44                                                                       ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 2/4] " W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 16:46                                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-03 18:15                                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 18:38                                                               ` W. Trevor King
2012-12-03 20:29                                                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 3/4] submodule add: If --branch is given, record it in .gitmodules W. Trevor King
2012-12-02  3:17                                                         ` [PATCH v6 4/4] submodule update: add submodule.<name>.remote config option W. Trevor King
2012-12-02 19:32                                                       ` [PATCH v5 0/2] submodule update: add --remote for submodule's upstream changes Jens Lehmann
2012-11-10 18:44                                         ` [PATCH v3 1/3] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-11-11 10:33                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2012-11-11 15:00                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-17 15:30                                               ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-28 19:42                                             ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 20:08                                               ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                       ` <20121109104607.GC4406@ftbfs.org>
2012-11-10 19:11                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] git-submodule foreach: export .gitmodules settings as variables W. Trevor King
2012-11-09 16:45                                       ` Heiko Voigt
2012-11-10 19:21                                         ` W. Trevor King
2012-11-09  3:35                                     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] git-submodule: Motivate --record with an example use case W. Trevor King
2012-10-25 22:14         ` [PATCH v2] git-submodule add: Add -r/--record option W. Trevor King
2012-10-26 14:00           ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 21:45     ` [PATCH] git-submodule add: Record branch name in .gitmodules Nahor
2012-10-23 20:36   ` Jens Lehmann
2012-10-23 20:55     ` W. Trevor King
2012-10-23 22:02     ` Nahor
2012-10-24 19:10       ` Jens Lehmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-28 18:28 [PATCH] submodule update: document exisiting -r form for --rebase W. Trevor King
2012-11-28 19:02 ` Junio C Hamano

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