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From: Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.email>
To: Varun Varada <varuncvarada@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect"
Date: Thu, 27 May 2021 12:20:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <571aa879-4f34-751d-b2e7-33d4042656c1@iee.email> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD2i4DAbBiVRo2Zk_cSYbgXGmm0SMUJZxSqYWhQr3tjwHxCYHQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 27/05/2021 00:52, Varun Varada wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 05:40, Philip Oakley <philipoakley@iee.email> wrote:
>> Hi Varun,
>>
>>
>> I've seen the rather extended discussion about word choice. However Can
>> I suggest an alternative split of the patch?
>>
>> If the patch is split between:
>> 1. Test shells
>> 2. Code comments
>> 3. Manual pages
>> 4. Guides and How to's.
>>   then it should be possible to focus on the precision aspects first,
>> and only later get into the imprecision of modern colloquial English.
>> For the manual page changes, having a direct link to a test shell or
>> code comment change would provide important support to the clarification
>> of any precision aspects of the changes.
> I'd be happy to split it, but I'm not sure I follow what you mean by
> "precision aspects".
Hi, I was using precision in a similar way to the accuracy/precision
sense that you had highlighted about affect/effect not really being
interchangeable (i.e. my 'precision' is similarly inexact;-).

You are right that there is a distinct difference between affect/effect
for the grammar pedants and that in the vernacular (common) usage,
because of the many dialects and vocalisation here in UK (and likely the
Americas), many folk ignore the spelling (esp if spoken;-) and just look
for context.

My suggestion was to start with just the test/code comments where it is
likely easier to identify and describe the affect/effect mistakes
(accurately and precisely). By splitting the patches into separate Test
and Code changes each review gets smaller and easier.

Then, for each of the test and code patch, see if there is a (~exactly)
matching issue in the documentation. These can then (hopefully) easily
be justified by reference to their code/test change.

This should leave a few (~small amount ;-) of residual affect/effect
potential changes to be discussed/argued over.

Philip

[the _average_ number of residual changes won't be an integer, so maybe
it is a small amount of changes]


      reply	other threads:[~2021-05-27 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-05 21:48 [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect" Varun Varada
2021-04-06  9:24 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-04-06 19:36   ` Varun Varada
2021-04-06 23:01     ` Jeff King
2021-04-07  0:06       ` Varun Varada
2021-04-28  0:39         ` Varun Varada
2021-04-28  8:58           ` Michal Suchánek
2021-04-28 18:15             ` Varun Varada
2021-04-28 18:49               ` Michal Suchánek
2021-04-30  1:51                 ` Varun Varada
2021-04-30  7:59                   ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-10 17:19                     ` Varun Varada
2021-05-10 17:35                       ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-10 18:37                         ` Varun Varada
2021-05-11 10:43                           ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-11 13:22                             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-12  3:02                               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:59                             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:48                         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:38                 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:34             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:24       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 19:59     ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 20:25       ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-11 21:38         ` Varun Varada
2021-05-12  3:43           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  4:09             ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  5:13               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  6:47                 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  9:06                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 10:08                     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 10:33                       ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 11:05                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 11:20                         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 11:45                           ` Robert P. J. Day
2021-05-12 15:19                             ` Kerry, Richard
2021-05-12 16:47                   ` Varun Varada
2021-05-12 17:01                     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 17:32                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 18:04                         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12 19:42                           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13  7:46                             ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-13  8:28                               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13  8:55                               ` Robert Coup
2021-05-13  9:48                                 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-13  9:59                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-26 23:49                                   ` Varun Varada
2021-05-27 11:46                                     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-27 14:08                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-27 14:35                                         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-27 16:43                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-12 23:13                                           ` Varun Varada
2021-06-13 11:40                                             ` Michal Suchánek
2021-06-13 14:06                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-06-13 16:28                                                 ` Michal Suchánek
2021-06-13 17:12                                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 22:52                       ` Varun Varada
2021-05-13  6:19                         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  3:21         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 19:21   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 19:57     ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  3:09       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  4:11         ` Michal Suchánek
2021-05-12  5:22           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 16:39           ` Varun Varada
2021-05-13 10:40 ` Philip Oakley
2021-05-26 23:52   ` Varun Varada
2021-05-27 11:20     ` Philip Oakley [this message]

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