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* [ruby-core:117523] [Ruby master Feature#20429] Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined
@ 2024-04-16  6:25 byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
  2024-04-16 10:11 ` [ruby-core:117529] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
  2024-04-17  7:57 ` [ruby-core:117550] " matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core @ 2024-04-16  6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core; +Cc: byroot (Jean Boussier)

Issue #20429 has been reported by byroot (Jean Boussier).

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Feature #20429: Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20429

* Author: byroot (Jean Boussier)
* Status: Open
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MRI has a number of core methods with special handling in the interpreter and both JITs that if they are redefined negatively impact Ruby performance.

The methods currently are (I may be missing a few):

  - `Integer`: `#+`, `#-`, `#*`, `#/`, `#%`, `#<`, `#>`, `#<=`, `#>=`
  - `Float`: `#+`, `#-`, `#*`, `#/`, `#<`, `#>`, `#<=`, `#>=`
  - `String`: `#freeze`, `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#+`, `#succ`, `#%`, `#-@`
  - `Array`: `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#hash`
  - `Array`: `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#[]`, `#[]=`





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* [ruby-core:117529] [Ruby master Feature#20429] Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined
  2024-04-16  6:25 [ruby-core:117523] [Ruby master Feature#20429] Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
@ 2024-04-16 10:11 ` Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
  2024-04-17  7:57 ` [ruby-core:117550] " matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core
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From: Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core @ 2024-04-16 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ruby-core; +Cc: Eregon (Benoit Daloze)

Issue #20429 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).


+1, great idea.
I will likely do the same in TruffleRuby (there is already a way to find out via `--engine.TraceAssumptions` but that's more general and less user-friendly).

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Feature #20429: Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20429#change-107919

* Author: byroot (Jean Boussier)
* Status: Open
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MRI has a number of core methods with special handling in the interpreter and both JITs that if they are redefined negatively impact Ruby performance.

The methods currently are (I may be missing a few):

  - `Integer`: `#+`, `#-`, `#*`, `#/`, `#%`, `#<`, `#>`, `#<=`, `#>=`
  - `Float`: `#+`, `#-`, `#*`, `#/`, `#<`, `#>`, `#<=`, `#>=`
  - `String`: `#freeze`, `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#+`, `#succ`, `#%`, `#-@`
  - `Array`: `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#hash`
  - `Array`: `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#[]`, `#[]=`


Noticing that a dependency do redefine one of these methods can be non-trivial, so I'd like to emit a `:performance` warning when it happens.

I can't really think of much reasons to redefine these aside from fun hacks, so I believe discouraging it would be valuable.

Patch: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/10532




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* [ruby-core:117550] [Ruby master Feature#20429] Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined
  2024-04-16  6:25 [ruby-core:117523] [Ruby master Feature#20429] Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined byroot (Jean Boussier) via ruby-core
  2024-04-16 10:11 ` [ruby-core:117529] " Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core
@ 2024-04-17  7:57 ` matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core
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From: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto) via ruby-core @ 2024-04-17  7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Issue #20429 has been updated by matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto).


Sounds reasonable. Accepted.

Matz.


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Feature #20429: Emit a performance warning when specially optimized core methods are redefined
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20429#change-107944

* Author: byroot (Jean Boussier)
* Status: Open
----------------------------------------
MRI has a number of core methods with special handling in the interpreter and both JITs that if they are redefined negatively impact Ruby performance.

The methods currently are (I may be missing a few):

  - `Integer`: `#+`, `#-`, `#*`, `#/`, `#%`, `#<`, `#>`, `#<=`, `#>=`
  - `Float`: `#+`, `#-`, `#*`, `#/`, `#<`, `#>`, `#<=`, `#>=`
  - `String`: `#freeze`, `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#+`, `#succ`, `#%`, `#-@`
  - `Array`: `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#hash`
  - `Hash`: `#size`, `#length`, `#empty?`, `#[]`, `#[]=`


Noticing that a dependency do redefine one of these methods can be non-trivial, so I'd like to emit a `:performance` warning when it happens.

I can't really think of much reasons to redefine these aside from fun hacks, so I believe discouraging it would be valuable.

Patch: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/10532




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