Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 113, Issue 15

Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 113, Issue 15

[fudmier via libreplanet-discuss]

Forcing human rights and democracy first Icon Stallman to resign..seems to
suggest a bigger plan with roots in a design that has as its object to 
deny to the
world the open source developer invented products and instructional 
expertise.
Becoming an expert "by doing" is far better and cheaper then allowing 
oneself to
be victimized by educational systems that obligate one to incur a 
lifetime of debt
just to obtain credentials from a major monopoly powered accreditation 
source.

Keeping developers with expertise outside of the monopoly owned 
mainstream is
an essential component of a democratic society.?? Nearly every 
curtailment of
democracy in recent times, can be traced to the effort of a monopoly 
powered
global corporation.???? Let us not forget that copyrights, patents and 
privatization
of public goods and services into private hands skews the distribution 
of wealth
(because of these monopolies, 100 persons or so have the net worth of 
the rest
of the population) and that skew allows them to restrain competition and
deny open access.


The danger is that monopolist can destroy free, open and full access to 
information
and they can deny/gate for money access to expertise and interactive 
learning experiences

Walling information, charging for access to experience and training seem to
tract to the domestic and foreign intelligence agencies who use the 
monopoly powered
private purveyors of propaganda to assist them in curtailing freedom and 
democracy.

Gee, what will we do without Richard Stallman?

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> From: "Adrienne G. Thompson" <adriennegayethompson@gmail.com>
> To: quiliro@riseup.net
> Cc: MARY-ANNE WOLF <mgwmgw@comcast.net>,  libreplanet-discuss
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> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
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> Quiliro, I see you're at riseup.net!
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>> Your message has made Richard Stallman, an icon to human rights, resign as
>> president of the board of directors and as president of the FSF.
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>> As for me, I will stop preferring women for positions on free software
>> technical areas. I think that they will earn them if they deserve such
>> positions.
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> Affirmative action is a noble concept, but sometimes adopting the policy
> just doesn't make sense. You always need the very best for technical
> positions - which should accordingly be earned on merit. I doubt that I
> will be "preferring women" for technical positions at GNU C-Graph!
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> This whole business smells like a set-up. I've noted the number of people
> who rushed to distance themselves from rms, some of whom he might once have
> considered friends. RMS will rise again in the blink of an eye!
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> *You may write me down in historyWith your bitter, twisted lies,You may
> trod me in the very dirtBut still, like dust, I'll rise.You may shoot me
> with your words,You may cut me with your eyes,You may kill me with your
> hatefulness,But still, like air, I???ll rise.Just like moons and like
> suns,With the certainty of tides,Just like hopes springing high,Still I'll
> rise.*
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> >From "Still I Rise" by Maya Angelou
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> Adrienne G. Thompson
> Author and Inventor, GNU C-Graph
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What will we do without Richard Stallman? Push for more software freedom as per usual.

[J.B. Nicholson]

fudmier via libreplanet-discuss wrote:
> Forcing human rights and democracy first Icon Stallman to resign..seems
> to suggest a bigger plan with roots in a design that has as its object
> to deny to the world the open source developer invented products and
> instructional expertise.
It would be better not to conflate Stallman or his work with "open source". 
As he (and history) have made clear: he founded the free software movement 
(a social movement) over a decade before "open source" (a development 
methodology). He has mentioned in multiple interviews, articles, and 
virtually every speech I've ever heard him give (including almost all on 
https://audio-video.gnu.org/) that he does not stand for open source but 
for free software. I trust the readership of this mailing list doesn't need 
anyone to recite a long list of links to this end. For anyone new to free 
software: welcome and please do read the essays on 
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ because the issues discussed therein are 
still apropos to the FSF's central mission and what we mainly talk about on 
this mailing list.

> Gee, what will we do without Richard Stallman?

You might not have intended it this way, but I hope that this question is 
taken with utmost seriousness. Fortunately for us he's not dead; RMS can 
continue to publish informative, insightful essays & talks on his own. However:

1. RMS is mortal and (like us all) will someday die,
2. the FSF has begun a search for a new president. (per 
https://www.fsf.org/news/richard-m-stallman-resigns),

Because of these things there is a chance someone will become the next FSF 
president who isn't the sharp defender of software freedom RMS has always been.

It would be a shame if the FSF made a compromise where they favored sating 
a desire for identity politics, say, and occasionally gave into proprietor 
pressure groups or ran proprietary software over someone who consistently 
demonstrated unyielding support for software freedom. I hope they'll pick 
someone who is deeply informed about free software, and who possesses a 
sharp, critical stance in defense of software freedom. The mission of the 
FSF doesn't change just because they get a new president.

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Re: FSF has begun a search for a new president

[Dmitry Alexandrov]

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"J.B. Nicholson" <jbn@forestfield.org> wrote:
> 2. the FSF has begun a search for a new president. (per https://www.fsf.org/news/richard-m-stallman-resigns),

> It would be a shame if the FSF made a compromise where they favored sating a desire for identity politics…
> I hope they'll pick someone who is deeply informed about free software, and who possesses a sharp, critical stance in defense of software freedom.

As far as I am aware, for the years of Dr. Stallman’s presidency, that position was a full-time occupation with a salary of round 0 (zero) dollars per month (or per year, I am not sure :-).

Where should they search for a person of that kind to fill such a vacancy, I wonder.  Or is this practice subject to change?

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Re: FSF has begun a search for a new president

[Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss]

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On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 23:29:13 +0300
Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> wrote:

> "J.B. Nicholson" <jbn@forestfield.org> wrote:
> > 2. the FSF has begun a search for a new president. (per
> > https://www.fsf.org/news/richard-m-stallman-resigns),
> 
> > It would be a shame if the FSF made a compromise where they favored
> > sating a desire for identity politics… I hope they'll pick someone
> > who is deeply informed about free software, and who possesses a
> > sharp, critical stance in defense of software freedom.
> 
> As far as I am aware, for the years of Dr. Stallman’s presidency,
> that position was a full-time occupation with a salary of round 0
> (zero) dollars per month (or per year, I am not sure :-).
> 
> Where should they search for a person of that kind to fill such a
> vacancy, I wonder.  Or is this practice subject to change?

Alexandre Olivier of FSFLA is, in my opinion, the *best* choice of
leader to replace RMS. He has a proven track record in all of the
criteria mentioned by the OP.


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