From: Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net>
To: Mike Gerwitz <mtg@gnu.org>
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Adding [A]GPLv3+ code to Quake-based code base
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:23:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b13c9f36-be51-9b36-85c0-ca2c47418aba@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shg87266.fsf@gnu.org>
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On 08/30/2017 10:10 PM, Mike Gerwitz wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 21:48:03 -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote:
>> What do you mean "only if modifications are made"?
>> Can you cite the part of the license you read that way?
>
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-affero-gpl.html
>
> "It has one added requirement: if you run a __modified__ program on a
> server and let other users communicate with it there, your server must
> also allow them to download the source code corresponding to the
> modified version running there." (emphasis mine)
>
> That page did not include "modified" some time ago (>1y); I brought it
> to rms' attention out of confusion, and he corrected it.
>
> As far as the actual license goes:
>
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html
>
> "The GNU Affero General Public License is designed specifically to
> ensure that, in such cases, the modified source code becomes available
> to the community. It requires the operator of a network server to
> provide the source code of the modified version running there to the
> users of that server. Therefore, public use of a modified version, on
> a publicly accessible server, gives the public access to the source
> code of the modified version."
>
> Section 13:
>
> "Notwithstanding any other provision of this License, if you modify
> the Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users
> interacting with it remotely through a computer network (if your
> version supports such interaction) an opportunity to receive the
> Corresponding Source of your version by providing access to the
> Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge [...]"
>
>> I certainly had the impression that, just like the GPL, the AGPL
>> required making the source available whenever conveying, regardless of
>> modified status.
>
> I had that impression too, a while back.
>
Thanks. But damnit. Sounds like the AGPL has an unfortunate flaw here.
Is there not even a requirement that people get any notice that the
software being run is under AGPL at all, unless it's modified??
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-29 9:53 Adding [A]GPLv3+ code to Quake-based code base Lyberta
2017-08-29 16:12 ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-29 21:58 ` Lyberta
2017-08-29 22:18 ` Isaac David
2017-08-29 23:06 ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-29 23:30 ` Isaac David
2017-08-29 23:43 ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-30 0:51 ` Isaac David
2017-08-30 1:43 ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-30 3:07 ` Isaac David
2017-08-30 3:19 ` Isaac David
2017-08-30 9:15 ` Lyberta
2017-08-30 16:19 ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-31 1:54 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-08-31 4:48 ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-31 5:10 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-08-31 5:23 ` Aaron Wolf [this message]
2017-08-31 19:43 ` John Sullivan
2017-08-31 19:49 ` Aaron Wolf
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