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From: Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net>
To: Mike Gerwitz <mtg@gnu.org>
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Adding [A]GPLv3+ code to Quake-based code base
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:23:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b13c9f36-be51-9b36-85c0-ca2c47418aba@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87shg87266.fsf@gnu.org>


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On 08/30/2017 10:10 PM, Mike Gerwitz wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 21:48:03 -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote:
>> What do you mean "only if modifications are made"?
>> Can you cite the part of the license you read that way?
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-affero-gpl.html
> 
>   "It has one added requirement: if you run a __modified__ program on a
>   server and let other users communicate with it there, your server must
>   also allow them to download the source code corresponding to the
>   modified version running there." (emphasis mine)
> 
> That page did not include "modified" some time ago (>1y); I brought it
> to rms' attention out of confusion, and he corrected it.
> 
> As far as the actual license goes:
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl.html
> 
>   "The GNU Affero General Public License is designed specifically to
>   ensure that, in such cases, the modified source code becomes available
>   to the community. It requires the operator of a network server to
>   provide the source code of the modified version running there to the
>   users of that server. Therefore, public use of a modified version, on
>   a publicly accessible server, gives the public access to the source
>   code of the modified version."
> 
> Section 13:
> 
>   "Notwithstanding any other provision of this License, if you modify
>   the Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users
>   interacting with it remotely through a computer network (if your
>   version supports such interaction) an opportunity to receive the
>   Corresponding Source of your version by providing access to the
>   Corresponding Source from a network server at no charge [...]"
> 
>> I certainly had the impression that, just like the GPL, the AGPL
>> required making the source available whenever conveying, regardless of
>> modified status.
> 
> I had that impression too, a while back.
> 

Thanks. But damnit. Sounds like the AGPL has an unfortunate flaw here.
Is there not even a requirement that people get any notice that the
software being run is under AGPL at all, unless it's modified??


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-31  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-29  9:53 Adding [A]GPLv3+ code to Quake-based code base Lyberta
2017-08-29 16:12 ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-29 21:58   ` Lyberta
2017-08-29 22:18     ` Isaac David
2017-08-29 23:06     ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-29 23:30       ` Isaac David
2017-08-29 23:43         ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-30  0:51           ` Isaac David
2017-08-30  1:43             ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-30  3:07               ` Isaac David
2017-08-30  3:19                 ` Isaac David
2017-08-30  9:15       ` Lyberta
2017-08-30 16:19         ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-31  1:54           ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-08-31  4:48             ` Aaron Wolf
2017-08-31  5:10               ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-08-31  5:23                 ` Aaron Wolf [this message]
2017-08-31 19:43                   ` John Sullivan
2017-08-31 19:49                     ` Aaron Wolf

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