From: Danny Spitzberg <stationaery@gmail.com>
To: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Cc: "C. Cossé" <ccosse@gmail.com>,
"Pedro Lucas Porcellis" <porcellis@eletrotupi.com>,
fischersfritz@sent.at, libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: COVID-19 testing
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 15:02:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEYaDQP==OiNsmxFuLFt2Fmq0+1UCQnR_Pi8oGZuDAMKoEteaw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Fascism? Are you sure?
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:36 AM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
> * C. Cossé <ccosse@gmail.com> [2021-08-18 20:33]:
> > You are using proprietary software from the moment you wake up in the
> > morning. Even the traffic lights on your way to the pharmacy use prop
> > software.
>
> Proprietary software may run anything, this really does not matter as
> those devices are not under ownership of the user. If it runs on
> somebody's else computer it is not affecting the user who does not own
> the computer or user's data.
>
> What matters is that third parties should not request or ask that
> people install proprietary software and run it on personal devices as
> that way people lose control over their computing.
>
> If that is so, then whichever party asks or demand by the law or some
> other rule to run the proprietary software than this party should
> guarantee by some value the functionality of software and that could
> be acceptable if the party demanding it or government, PROVIDES THE
> DEVICE, where that software would exclusively run. That is very
> similar to various devices like heart beat or pulse measurement or
> watches where inside proprietary software runs but does not affect the
> user nor user's data.
>
> As if any law is enacted to run some software then that law cannot
> demand people to buy smart phones or computers, the law must also say
> that devices will be provided to people.
>
> Though I am against such new laws, and I consider it fascism. We are
> in the new fascism area.
>
> Nobody should force people to install proprietary software on THEIR
> devices as that is abuse of human rights.
>
>
> Jean
>
> Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
> https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
>
> In support of Richard M. Stallman
> https://stallmansupport.org/
>
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Fascism? Are you sure?
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:36 AM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
* C. Cossé <[1]ccosse@gmail.com> [2021-08-18 20:33]:
> You are using proprietary software from the moment you wake up
in the
> morning. Even the traffic lights on your way to the pharmacy
use prop
> software.
Proprietary software may run anything, this really does not matter
as
those devices are not under ownership of the user. If it runs on
somebody's else computer it is not affecting the user who does not
own
the computer or user's data.
What matters is that third parties should not request or ask that
people install proprietary software and run it on personal devices
as
that way people lose control over their computing.
If that is so, then whichever party asks or demand by the law or
some
other rule to run the proprietary software than this party should
guarantee by some value the functionality of software and that could
be acceptable if the party demanding it or government, PROVIDES THE
DEVICE, where that software would exclusively run. That is very
similar to various devices like heart beat or pulse measurement or
watches where inside proprietary software runs but does not affect
the
user nor user's data.
As if any law is enacted to run some software then that law cannot
demand people to buy smart phones or computers, the law must also
say
that devices will be provided to people.
Though I am against such new laws, and I consider it fascism. We are
in the new fascism area.
Nobody should force people to install proprietary software on THEIR
devices as that is abuse of human rights.
Jean
Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns:
[2]https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
In support of Richard M. Stallman
[3]https://stallmansupport.org/
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References
1. mailto:ccosse@gmail.com
2. https://www.fsf.org/campaigns
3. https://stallmansupport.org/
4. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
5. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-20 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-17 12:26 COVID-19 testing fischersfritz
2021-08-17 15:04 ` Pedro Lucas Porcellis
2021-08-17 15:14 ` fischersfritz
2021-08-18 17:30 ` C. Cossé
2021-08-18 17:59 ` Jean Louis
2021-08-19 22:02 ` Danny Spitzberg [this message]
2021-08-19 22:33 ` fischersfritz
[not found] ` <611edc43.1c69fb81.6f03c.bfe9SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
2021-08-19 22:40 ` Danny Spitzberg
2021-08-20 5:10 ` Jean Louis
2021-08-20 5:58 ` fischersfritz
2021-08-20 14:16 ` Danny Spitzberg
2021-08-20 14:27 ` fischersfritz
2021-08-20 5:04 ` Jean Louis
2021-08-20 14:28 ` Greg Farough
2021-08-18 23:24 ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
2021-08-19 12:56 ` fischersfritz
2021-08-20 0:56 ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
2021-08-20 1:41 ` fischersfritz
2021-08-20 22:46 ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
[not found] ` <mailman.109.1629302443.4936.libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
2021-08-18 23:32 ` COVID-19 testing (fischersfritz@sent.at) Arthur Torrey
2021-08-20 16:49 ` fischersfritz
2021-08-20 17:22 ` Arthur Torrey
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