From: Aaron Wolf <wolftune@riseup.net>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: Were Intellectual Property to be abolished altogether, would you or FSF support it?
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 08:50:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f343fea-35a6-e618-e4a5-94359da7970e@riseup.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7775aa40-69a1-e54c-b221-c92453eec1ad@disroot.org>
At Snowdrift.coop, we're still working to get launched on our proposals
for how we can fund public goods without relying on exclusivity (i.e.
"club goods" where you join the club by paying for access or watching
ads etc). There's no reason in principle that we need these artificial
exclusions (exclusive rights, all rights RESERVED exclusively) in order
to coordinate in supporting the people who do creative work.
On 2021-07-11 12:19 a.m., Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss wrote:
>
>
> On 11/07/2021 00:44, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
>> This is a thought experiment:
>>
>> Would you or FSF support the idea of abolishing the concept of
>> intellectual property altogether, making any form of 'Software
>> Licensing', including GPL, null and void. Gone also will be any form
>> of Patents and Copyrights.
>>
>> Just curious 😄
>> -Yasu
>
> Given that the Creative Commons "wanna work together video" says we have
> an all rights reserved copyright on anything we create, surely we need
> some rights if we create something.
>
> It protects what we create surely and allows us to make money from
> this,k people need to eat, buy clothes, pay rents etc. If we removed
> that ability then how would we make money.
>
> This gives creators a base to either make the copyright stronger or
> release under a cc license or even a cc-0 licensel
>
> I do like the idea that creators should be paid directly, I know the
> music industry gives people a bad deal on that one.
>
> I create stuff that people seem just happy to make use of without even
> giving me credit, or even just take credit for them selves.
>
> This needs more discussion as there are clearly ideas that depend on our
> own viewpoint, which depend on our own knowledge and experience. I
> don't think there is a black and white answer to this. Looking at
> Aarons response there seems to be a need for some safeguards in place.
>
> Paul
>
>
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-10 23:44 Were Intellectual Property to be abolished altogether, would you or FSF support it? Yasuaki Kudo
2021-07-10 23:50 ` Aaron Wolf
2021-07-11 7:19 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2021-07-11 15:50 ` Aaron Wolf [this message]
2021-07-11 7:28 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2021-08-07 19:44 ` Julian Daich
[not found] <87o8b8emev.fsf@riseup.net>
2021-07-11 23:04 ` Yasuaki Kudo
2021-07-12 0:14 ` Aaron Wolf
2021-07-12 5:43 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2021-07-12 12:48 ` Yasuaki Kudo
2021-07-12 19:41 ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
2021-07-12 20:29 ` Yasuaki Kudo
2021-07-12 21:12 ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
2021-07-12 21:37 ` Yasuaki Kudo
2021-07-12 21:45 ` jahoti via libreplanet-discuss
2021-07-13 7:18 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2021-07-13 7:32 ` Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
2021-07-13 8:27 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-13 9:59 ` Yasuaki Kudo
[not found] <8735ske4nv.fsf@riseup.net>
2021-07-12 3:59 ` Yasuaki Kudo
[not found] <87fswj7j0o.fsf@riseup.net>
2021-07-12 21:26 ` Yasuaki Kudo
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