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From: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	<libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Accelerating Y2038 glibc fixes
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 23:30:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1907292328080.1468@digraph.polyomino.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dcae3a6e-0ba5-6115-3df2-6e3a0b1c4c47@cs.ucla.edu>

On Mon, 29 Jul 2019, Paul Eggert wrote:

> On 7/29/19 4:08 PM, Joseph Myers wrote:
> > > What it would require is to add compat implementations with a different
> > > type, time32_t for instance.  Something like:
> > That seems much harder to implement through incremental development,
> > whereas with _TIME_BITS=64 things can readily be implemented incrementally
> 
> I worry that this puts the incremental cart before the incremental horse, at
> least for portable applications. If we take the _TIME_BITS=64 approach,
> portable applications should add the equivalent of "#define _TIME_BITS 64" to
> their config.h files or ihatever, because they should be Y2038-safe. But if
> glibc development is incremental so that some time_t uses are glitchy when
> _TIME_BITS=64, these applications will have problems. Conversely, if glibc
> doesn't publicize the time_t changes until they're ready (which I think is the
> intent), the _TIME_BITS=32 approach would be less hassle overall for portable
> applications; they won't have to change their source code.

Header support for _TIME_BITS=64 shouldn't be added until all functions 
fully support it.  At that point, having it not be the default for some 
number of releases helps users plan the ABI transition for their libraries 
(rather than getting an ABI break by default for any library that gets 
rebuilt with newer glibc unless a special option is used, they can plan a 
whole-distribution transition on their own timescale).

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
joseph@codesourcery.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-29 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-12  7:21 Accelerating Y2038 glibc fixes Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16  9:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16 11:50 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2019-07-16 12:40   ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16 12:44 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-16 14:52   ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16 15:09     ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-16 15:19       ` Andrew Pinski
2019-07-17 14:15     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 14:41       ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 16:00         ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-17 16:04           ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 16:18             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-18 18:53               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-18 19:13                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 20:31                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-18 21:20                     ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 22:32                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-19  7:21                       ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-19  3:06                     ` Rich Felker
2019-07-19 17:44                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-19 19:03                         ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-25 20:40                 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-29 17:47                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-29 19:58                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-29 21:00                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-29 21:08                         ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-29 23:12                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-29 23:30                             ` Joseph Myers [this message]
2019-07-17 17:50       ` Rich Felker
2019-07-17 21:57         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-17 22:37           ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18  7:20             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-18 13:35               ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18 14:47           ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18 14:49             ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 15:46               ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18 16:43                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-20  4:43             ` Rich Felker
2019-07-25 19:54 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-26 10:39   ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-29 18:55     ` Zack Weinberg
2019-07-29 20:12       ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-30 11:02         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-30 12:24           ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-30 14:04       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-08-09  7:25         ` Lukasz Majewski
     [not found]           ` <CAKCAbMhOMQ9yTFpy+OQkDvZPPFf_fFn6oSxjvLTaUwC4jpPRag@mail.gmail.com>
2019-08-09 12:32             ` Fwd: " Zack Weinberg
2019-07-30 19:58       ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-30 20:28         ` Florian Weimer

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