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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Accelerating Y2038 glibc fixes
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 23:20:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ftn3dopt.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a59e20b-e941-e71a-5d4c-cda8088617c3@linaro.org> (Adhemerval Zanella's message of "Thu, 18 Jul 2019 17:31:51 -0300")

* Adhemerval Zanella:

> On 18/07/2019 16:13, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Adhemerval Zanella:
>> 
>>> So what about to not add a user-selected way to set the time_t size
>>> (as off_t) and just enable time64_t support and sets is as default for 
>>> build with a minimum kernel of v5.1 (if I recall correctly as being the 
>>> one that added time64 support)?
>> 
>> Does this mean that some developers see a glibc 2.31 with a 32-bit
>> time_t on i386, and others see a 64-bit time_t?
>> 
>>> It will move all time32 support as compat symbols for the required ABI, 
>>> without an option to select it through a build flag. Newer ports will
>>> just have the expected symbol names, no tinkering needed.
>> 
>> But if we build glibc with pre-5.1 kernel headers, you will get the
>> legacy interface?
>
> My idea is to setup based on --enable-kernel and add a new EI_ABIVERSION
> when time64 is used.  So, depending on how glibc is built, developers
> will indeed see a different time_t.
>
> Legacy builds won't build any time64 support, even with newer kernels.
> Build set with --enable-kernel will automatically set time_t as time64
> and redirect the required interfaces to the new symbols ones (similar
> to LFS, but transparently as _FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 as being set as default).
>
> Newer 32-bit ports won't require anything like this as expected.
>
> I still think that in long term this initial bump transition is better
> than to the complexity from mixed support.

I've relayed this proposal to Debian and Fedora:

  <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/07/msg00384.html>
  <https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/WMNZEREJU5JHB5DH6YDAHFLZJEU3IFEF/>

I suggest others do this for the distributions they care about.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-18 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-12  7:21 Accelerating Y2038 glibc fixes Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16  9:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16 11:50 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2019-07-16 12:40   ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16 12:44 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-16 14:52   ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-16 15:09     ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-16 15:19       ` Andrew Pinski
2019-07-17 14:15     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-07-17 14:41       ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 16:00         ` Wolfgang Denk
2019-07-17 16:04           ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-17 16:18             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-18 18:53               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-18 19:13                 ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 20:31                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-18 21:20                     ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2019-07-18 22:32                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-19  7:21                       ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-19  3:06                     ` Rich Felker
2019-07-19 17:44                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-19 19:03                         ` Alistair Francis
2019-07-25 20:40                 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-29 17:47                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-29 19:58                     ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-29 21:00                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-29 21:08                         ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-29 23:12                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-29 23:30                             ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-17 17:50       ` Rich Felker
2019-07-17 21:57         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-17 22:37           ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18  7:20             ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-18 13:35               ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18 14:47           ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18 14:49             ` Florian Weimer
2019-07-18 15:46               ` Rich Felker
2019-07-18 16:43                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2019-07-20  4:43             ` Rich Felker
2019-07-25 19:54 ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-26 10:39   ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-29 18:55     ` Zack Weinberg
2019-07-29 20:12       ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-30 11:02         ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-07-30 12:24           ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-30 14:04       ` Lukasz Majewski
2019-08-09  7:25         ` Lukasz Majewski
     [not found]           ` <CAKCAbMhOMQ9yTFpy+OQkDvZPPFf_fFn6oSxjvLTaUwC4jpPRag@mail.gmail.com>
2019-08-09 12:32             ` Fwd: " Zack Weinberg
2019-07-30 19:58       ` Joseph Myers
2019-07-30 20:28         ` Florian Weimer

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