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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  avarab@gmail.com,
	 christian.couder@gmail.com, me@ttaylorr.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] doc: describe the project's decision-making process
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:30:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqy195t794.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZibSUPezSU3ZV1HA@google.com> (Josh Steadmon's message of "Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:10:40 -0700")

Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com> writes:

> While clearly nothing has been decided on those topics, it seems to me
> at least that they follow a pattern of "discussion now, consensus
> (hopefully) soon, implementation later".
>
> Or do you think it's more accurate to say that we rarely/never make
> decisions without patches?

As I said, I do think it is rare for us to start with only "ideas"
without anything concrete to comment on, and that is why I asked
some references (e.g., URLs into the archive) to a discussion in the
past of a larger decisions where (1) something is proposed, (2)
discussed, and (3) declaration that a consensus has reached, if a
document describes the status quo.

> Does that mean it's pointless to start a
> discussion without a patch series attached?

It does not necessarily mean it is not worth trying to do it more
often that we have done it rarely.  

Is it desirable to make more larger decisions to implement changes
that take longer effort and deeper commitments?  As long as we can
have a meaningful discussion, the "anything concrete to comment on"
I mentioned earlier in the previous paragraph does not have to be a
patch series.

> I'm trying to decide whether it's worth editing this doc for V2,
> or just starting over with a much smaller one instead.

And if the lack of documented process is a factor that contributes
to the rarity of such decisions, it is a reasonable goal to have a
documented process.  And learning from past sucesses (and failures)
by starting a document that describes the status quo is a good idea.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-22 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-15 23:20 [RFC PATCH] doc: describe the project's decision-making process Josh Steadmon
2024-04-16  0:24 ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-22 21:10   ` Josh Steadmon
2024-04-22 21:30     ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-04-23 22:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-17 16:32 ` Enrico Mrass
2024-04-17 16:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 14:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 15:48       ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-03 18:08         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 19:29           ` Taylor Blau
2024-05-06  7:12             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06 20:14               ` Taylor Blau
2024-05-06 19:36             ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-06 20:17               ` Taylor Blau
2024-04-22 18:41 ` Emily Shaffer
2024-04-22 19:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-22 21:12     ` Emily Shaffer
2024-04-23  1:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09  0:01 ` [PATCH v2] " Josh Steadmon
2024-05-09 18:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 19:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 21:13       ` [PATCH 0/2] Describe patch-flow better in SubmittingPatches Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 21:13         ` [PATCH 1/2] SubmittingPatches: move the patch-flow section earlier Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 21:13         ` [PATCH 2/2] SubmittingPatches: extend the "flow" section Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 10:08           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-10 15:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 19:09               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-10 16:55       ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Describe life cycle of a patch series Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 16:55         ` [PATCH v2 1/2] SubmittingPatches: move the patch-flow section earlier Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 16:55         ` [PATCH v2 2/2] SubmittingPatches: extend the "flow" section Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 16:56         ` [PATCH] decisions: focus on larger scale issues Junio C Hamano
2024-05-15 20:36           ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-15 20:50             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-15 20:35         ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Describe life cycle of a patch series Josh Steadmon
2024-05-16 21:20 ` [PATCH v3] doc: describe the project's decision-making process Josh Steadmon
2024-05-16 22:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-17 20:18     ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-17  6:29   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-17 16:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-17 20:35 ` [PATCH v4] " Josh Steadmon
2024-05-17 22:12   ` Junio C Hamano

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