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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,  avarab@gmail.com,
	 christian.couder@gmail.com, me@ttaylorr.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] doc: describe the project's decision-making process
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 17:24:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq34rmi28h.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2ef74c1b0c7482fa880a1519fd6ea1032df7789.1713222673.git.steadmon@google.com> (Josh Steadmon's message of "Mon, 15 Apr 2024 16:20:05 -0700")

Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com> writes:

> The Git project currently operates according to informal, unstated norms
> when it comes to making bigger-picture decisions (above and beyond
> individual patches and patch series). Document these norms so that
> newcomers to the project can learn what to expect.

It would be a good idea to write things down to help newcomers, but
the thing is, that we do not do that kind of design discussion +
design review + implementaiton waterfall here very often (a notable
exception was the sha256 transition design).  I am afraid that
"according to informal unstated norms" is an overstatement.  We do
not have any "process" concrete, nothing more than concensus
building among amicable parties.

Most of the time, technical decisions are made on individual series
and by the time the consensus is reached on the series that it is
good, the implementation should be finished, and there is no
separate "implementation" step.  Newcomers would probably want to
become familiar with that part of the decision process before
joining the "big picture" discussion, I suspect.

> One particular blind spot for me is how the Project Leadership Committee
> operates, or if that's even relevant to this doc.

I think this is the part PLC@SFC is supposed to be of relevance:

> +For non-technical decisions such as community norms or processes, it is up to
> +the community as a whole to implement and sustain agreed-upon changes.

> +Anyone with an interest in the topic is welcome to discuss the matter. It is
> +expected that all discussion will adhere to the Code of Conduct rules.

It is very much worth mentioning CoC here.

> diff --git a/Documentation/Makefile b/Documentation/Makefile
> index 3f2383a12c..a04da672c6 100644
> --- a/Documentation/Makefile
> +++ b/Documentation/Makefile
> @@ -103,6 +103,7 @@ SP_ARTICLES += howto/coordinate-embargoed-releases
>  API_DOCS = $(patsubst %.txt,%,$(filter-out technical/api-index-skel.txt technical/api-index.txt, $(wildcard technical/api-*.txt)))
>  SP_ARTICLES += $(API_DOCS)
>  
> +TECH_DOCS += DecisionMaking
>  TECH_DOCS += ReviewingGuidelines
>  TECH_DOCS += MyFirstContribution
>  TECH_DOCS += MyFirstObjectWalk
>
> base-commit: 436d4e5b14df49870a897f64fe92c0ddc7017e4c


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-16  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-15 23:20 [RFC PATCH] doc: describe the project's decision-making process Josh Steadmon
2024-04-16  0:24 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2024-04-22 21:10   ` Josh Steadmon
2024-04-22 21:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-23 22:41       ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-17 16:32 ` Enrico Mrass
2024-04-17 16:58   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 14:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 15:48       ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-03 18:08         ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-03 19:29           ` Taylor Blau
2024-05-06  7:12             ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-06 20:14               ` Taylor Blau
2024-05-06 19:36             ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-06 20:17               ` Taylor Blau
2024-04-22 18:41 ` Emily Shaffer
2024-04-22 19:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-04-22 21:12     ` Emily Shaffer
2024-04-23  1:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09  0:01 ` [PATCH v2] " Josh Steadmon
2024-05-09 18:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 19:20     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 21:13       ` [PATCH 0/2] Describe patch-flow better in SubmittingPatches Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 21:13         ` [PATCH 1/2] SubmittingPatches: move the patch-flow section earlier Junio C Hamano
2024-05-09 21:13         ` [PATCH 2/2] SubmittingPatches: extend the "flow" section Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 10:08           ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-10 15:59             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 19:09               ` Karthik Nayak
2024-05-10 16:55       ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Describe life cycle of a patch series Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 16:55         ` [PATCH v2 1/2] SubmittingPatches: move the patch-flow section earlier Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 16:55         ` [PATCH v2 2/2] SubmittingPatches: extend the "flow" section Junio C Hamano
2024-05-10 16:56         ` [PATCH] decisions: focus on larger scale issues Junio C Hamano
2024-05-15 20:36           ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-15 20:50             ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-15 20:35         ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Describe life cycle of a patch series Josh Steadmon
2024-05-16 21:20 ` [PATCH v3] doc: describe the project's decision-making process Josh Steadmon
2024-05-16 22:01   ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-17 20:18     ` Josh Steadmon
2024-05-17  6:29   ` Patrick Steinhardt
2024-05-17 16:40     ` Junio C Hamano
2024-05-17 20:35 ` [PATCH v4] " Josh Steadmon
2024-05-17 22:12   ` Junio C Hamano

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