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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Alban Gruin <alban.gruin@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 11/14] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 09:18:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqwnbc86c5.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220809185429.20098-12-alban.gruin@gmail.com> (Alban Gruin's message of "Tue, 9 Aug 2022 20:54:26 +0200")

Alban Gruin <alban.gruin@gmail.com> writes:

> This teaches `git merge' to invoke the "resolve" strategy with a
> function call instead of forking.
>
> Signed-off-by: Alban Gruin <alban.gruin@gmail.com>
> ---
>  builtin/merge.c | 4 ++++
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/builtin/merge.c b/builtin/merge.c
> index f7c92c0e64..0ab2993ab2 100644
> --- a/builtin/merge.c
> +++ b/builtin/merge.c
> @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@
>  #include "commit-reach.h"
>  #include "wt-status.h"
>  #include "commit-graph.h"
> +#include "merge-strategies.h"
>  
>  #define DEFAULT_TWOHEAD (1<<0)
>  #define DEFAULT_OCTOPUS (1<<1)
> @@ -774,6 +775,9 @@ static int try_merge_strategy(const char *strategy, struct commit_list *common,
>  				       COMMIT_LOCK | SKIP_IF_UNCHANGED))
>  			die(_("unable to write %s"), get_index_file());
>  		return clean ? 0 : 1;
> +	} else if (!strcmp(strategy, "resolve")) {
> +		return merge_strategies_resolve(the_repository, common,
> +						head_arg, remoteheads);
>  	} else {
>  		return try_merge_command(the_repository,
>  					 strategy, xopts_nr, xopts,

This is another thing that probably hurts the overall project more
than it helps, I am afraid.

Recall the recent effort by Elijah's en/merge-restore-to-pristine topic cf.
https://lore.kernel.org/git/pull.1231.v5.git.1658541198.gitgitgadget@gmail.com/

There are different failure modes of merge strategy backends, and
the "git merge" command that drives them must be prepared to handle
various failures from them.  It is one selling point of "git merge"
that there is a codepath that lets you use your own merge strategy
backend.

Before this series, we had recursive and ort backends that are
internally called without going through try_merge_command()
codepath, and resolve and octopus covered the more general codepath,
the same one that is used by external third-party strategy backends,
and we had test coverage for all.

As I said earlier, as the "ort" strategy got more mature and
performant, the simpler "resolve" may have outlived the value we get
out of its use in the real world (read: what's the last time you ran
"git merge" with th e"-s resolve" option?).  So at this point, the
value of having tests of "-s resolve" in our test suite mostly does
not come from the fact that we are keeping "resolve" alive.  It
comes from the fact that we are making sure that the codepath to
drive external merge strategy does not regress.  While it moves to
internally call resolve and octopus, I do not think this series
compensates the loss of test coverage by adding tests to drive a
custom merge strategy.

A possible correction may be to _add_ a new merge strategy written
in C that implements the same algorithm "resolve" uses, give it a
different name, say "c-resolve", and call it internally instead of
spawning.  And keep "resolve" instead of replacing it with
"c-resolve".  You can duplicate the tests we have for "-s resolve"
so that the new "-s c-resolve" codepath gets tested to the same
degree.  Then we will not lose the value "resolve" has, which is to
serve as a testbed for external merge strategy.

But as I said already, I suspect that "-s resolve" is not of much
use in the real world, not because it is not implemented in C but
because there is a generally better alternative.  It makes us wonder
if we are making good use of our engineering effort by giving yet
another strategy, "-s c-resolve", to the users.

IOW, I am not sure there is value in rewriting resolve in C (except
for educational value for the developer who does the task, that is),
and it is doubly dubious to call it internally instead of spawning
it as an external command.

So, I dunno.  I think between octopus and resolve, the former might
still be used and it might make sense to have a more "performant"
version of it (there is no strong reason why it needs to use the
same resolve backend for repeated pairwise merges it does---it could
just call into recursive or ort machinery instead if the resolve
machinery is more cumbersome to use) by rewriting it in C.  But
rewriting "resolve" in C to call it internally looks to me a
regression overall to the value "resolve" gives to this project.
Stopping at rewriting it in C but still calling it externally might
make it more acceptable, though.

Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-13 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 208+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-25 12:19 [RFC PATCH v1 00/17] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/17] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/17] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 14:55   ` Chris Torek
2020-06-25 15:16   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-25 18:17     ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-26 14:33       ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 11:22     ` Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/17] merge-one-file: remove calls to external processes Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/17] merge-one-file: use error() instead of fprintf(stderr, ...) Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/17] merge-one-file: libify merge_one_file() Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/17] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-06-26 10:13   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-26 14:32     ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 11:36     ` Alban Gruin
2020-07-12 18:02       ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 20:10         ` Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/17] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/17] merge-resolve: remove calls to external processes Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/17] merge-resolve: libify merge_resolve() Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/17] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/17] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/17] merge-octopus: remove calls to external processes Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/17] merge-octopus: libify merge_octopus() Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/17] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/17] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/17] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 16:11   ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 11:27     ` Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/17] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 21:06     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-02 14:50       ` Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 21:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-02 15:37       ` Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-10-06 20:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-10-06 22:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 19:47         ` Alban Gruin
2020-10-21 20:28           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 21:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 20:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-10-09  4:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-06 19:53         ` Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-10-16 19:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-10-16 19:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-06 19:53         ` Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-10-07  6:57     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-13 11:04     ` [PATCH v4 00/12] " Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 01/12] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 02/12] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 03/12] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 04/12] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 05/12] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 06/12] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 07/12] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 08/12] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 09/12] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 10/12] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 11/12] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 12/12] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21       ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 01/12] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 02/12] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 03/12] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 04/12] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 05/12] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 06/12] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 07/12] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 08/12] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 09/12] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 10/12] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 11/12] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 12/12] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53         ` [PATCH v6 00/13] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 01/13] t6407: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 02/13] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 03/13] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2020-12-22 20:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 04/13] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-12-22 21:36             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-03 22:41               ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-08  6:54                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 05/13] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 15:59             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-05 23:20               ` Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 06/13] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:11             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-05 17:35               ` Martin Ågren
2021-01-05 23:20                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 23:20               ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-06  2:04                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-10 17:15                   ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-10 20:51                     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 20:32                       ` Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 07/13] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 08/13] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:19             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 09/13] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:40             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 10/13] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:45             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 11/13] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 12/13] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 13/13] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 19:34           ` [PATCH v6 00/13] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C SZEDER Gábor
2021-01-05 16:50           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-17 20:49           ` [PATCH v7 00/15] " Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 01/15] t6407: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 02/15] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 03/15] t6060: add tests for removed files Alban Gruin
2021-03-22 21:36               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-23 20:43                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 04/15] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 05/15] merge-index: drop the index Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 06/15] merge-index: add a new way to invoke `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 07/15] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2021-03-22 21:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-23 20:45                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 08/15] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2021-03-22 22:20               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-23 20:53                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-24  9:10                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-04-10 14:17                     ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 09/15] merge-resolve: " Alban Gruin
2021-03-23 22:21               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-04-10 14:17                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 10/15] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 11/15] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2021-03-23 23:58               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 12/15] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 13/15] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 14/15] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 15/15] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54             ` [PATCH v8 00/14] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 01/14] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 02/14] t6060: add tests for removed files Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 03/14] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2022-08-17  2:10                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 04/14] merge-index: drop the index Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 05/14] merge-index: add a new way to invoke `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 21:36                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-10 13:14                   ` Phillip Wood
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 06/14] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 07/14] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 22:01                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 08/14] merge-resolve: " Alban Gruin
2022-08-10 15:03                 ` Phillip Wood
2022-08-10 21:20                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-16 12:09                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-16 19:36                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-17  9:42                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-17 19:06                           ` Elijah Newren
2022-08-17 19:18                             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-18 14:24                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-18 17:32                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-19  1:43                                 ` Elijah Newren
2022-08-19  2:45                                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-19  4:27                                     ` Elijah Newren
2022-08-17 19:12                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-16 12:17                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-16 14:02                     ` Phillip Wood
2022-08-17  2:16                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-18 14:43                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 09/14] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 10/14] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 11/14] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2022-08-13 16:18                 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 12/14] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 13/14] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 14/14] sequencer: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2022-11-18 11:18               ` [PATCH v9 00/12] merge-index: prepare to rewrite merge drivers in C Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 01/12] merge-index doc & -h: fix padding, labels and "()" use Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 02/12] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 03/12] t6060: add tests for removed files Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 04/12] merge-index tests: add usage tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 05/12] merge-index: migrate to parse_options() API Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 06/12] merge-index: improve die() error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 07/12] merge-index i18n: mark die() messages for translation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 08/12] merge-index: stop calling ensure_full_index() twice Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 09/12] builtin/merge-index.c: don't USE_THE_INDEX_COMPATIBILITY_MACROS Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 10/12] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 11/12] merge-index: use "struct strvec" and helper to prepare args Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 12/12] merge-index: make the argument parsing sensible & simpler Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 23:30                 ` [PATCH v9 00/12] merge-index: prepare to rewrite merge drivers in C Taylor Blau
2022-11-19 12:46                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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