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From: Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
To: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
Cc: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>,
	Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>,
	Alban Gruin <alban.gruin@gmail.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 08/14] merge-resolve: rewrite in C
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:43:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPp-BEvn5ovFF8DzjVW-H9rQ-UdU56uT_dk80w9p7DHokD+rQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <220818.868rnlaa0h.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 7:42 AM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
<avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 17 2022, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>
> > Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> There's also another concern you tried to address in your other email;
> >> let me quote from that email here:
> >>
> >>> If you want to have an easy example of a custom merge strategy, then let's
> >>> have that easy example. `git-merge-resolve.sh` ain't that example.
> >>>
> >>> It would be a different matter if you had commented about
> >>> `git-merge-ours.sh`:
> >>> https://github.com/git/git/blob/v2.17.0/contrib/examples/git-merge-ours.sh
> >>> That _was_ a simple and easy example.
> >>
> >> ...and it was _utterly useless_ as an example.  It only checked that
> >> the user hadn't modified the index since HEAD.  It doesn't demonstrate
> >> anything about how to merge differing entries, since that merge
> >> strategy specifically ignores changes made on the other side.  Since
> >> merging differing entries is the whole point of writing a strategy, I
> >> see no educational value in that particular script.
> >>
> >> `git-merge-resolve.sh` may be an imperfect example, but it's certainly
> >> far superior to that.
> >> ...
> >> If someone makes a better example (which I agree could be done,
> >> especially if it added lots of comments about what was required and
> >> why), and ensures we keep useful test coverage (maybe using Junio's
> >> c-resolve suggestion in another email), then my concerns about
> >> reimplementing git-merge-resolve.sh in C go away.
> >>
> >> If that happens, then I still think it's a useless exercise to do the
> >> reimplementation -- unless someone can provide evidence of `-s
> >> resolve` being in use -- but it's not a harmful exercise and wouldn't
> >> concern me.
> >>
> >> If the better example and mechanism to retain good test coverage
> >> aren't provided, then I worry that reimplementing is a bunch of work
> >> for an at best theoretical benefit, coupled with a double whammy
> >> practical regression.
> >
> > Ah, you said many things I wanted to say already.  Thanks.
>
> I may have missed something in this thread, but wouldn't an acceptable
> way to please everyone here be to:
>
>  1. Have git's behavior be that of the end of this series...
>  2. Add a GIT_TEST_* mode where we'll optionally invoke these "built-in"
>     merge strategies as commands, i.e. have them fall back to
>     "try_merge_command()".

In the portion of the email you quoted and responded to, most of the
text was talking about how git-merge-resolve.sh serves an important
educational purpose, yet you've only tried to address the testing
issue.  I think both are important.  The easiest way to fix the
educational shortcoming of this series is to reverse the deleting of
git-merge-resolve.sh, and restore the building and distribution of
git-merge-resolve from that script.  Unfortunately, that generates a
collision between both the script and the builtin being used to build
the same file (namely, git-merge-resolve)...which is yet another
reason that the easiest solution available here is to just not rewrite
this script in C at all.

There are certainly other possible solutions to the educational issue,
and might not even be too hard, but we'd need someone to implement one
before I'd agree we found an "acceptable way to please everyone".  :-)

> So something like this on top of this series (assume my SOB etc. if this
> is acceptable). I only tested this locally, but it seems to do the right
> thing for me:
<snip patch>

How did you test?  I'm a bit confused...unless I'm misreading
something, it appears to me that ci/lib.sh sets SKIP_DASHED_BUILT_INS
unconditionally which would probably cause your proposal to break.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-19  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 208+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-25 12:19 [RFC PATCH v1 00/17] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/17] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/17] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 14:55   ` Chris Torek
2020-06-25 15:16   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-25 18:17     ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-26 14:33       ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 11:22     ` Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/17] merge-one-file: remove calls to external processes Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/17] merge-one-file: use error() instead of fprintf(stderr, ...) Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/17] merge-one-file: libify merge_one_file() Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/17] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-06-26 10:13   ` Phillip Wood
2020-06-26 14:32     ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 11:36     ` Alban Gruin
2020-07-12 18:02       ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 20:10         ` Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/17] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/17] merge-resolve: remove calls to external processes Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/17] merge-resolve: libify merge_resolve() Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/17] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/17] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/17] merge-octopus: remove calls to external processes Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/17] merge-octopus: libify merge_octopus() Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/17] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/17] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/17] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 16:11   ` Phillip Wood
2020-07-12 11:27     ` Alban Gruin
2020-06-25 12:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/17] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 01/11] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 02/11] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 21:06     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-02 14:50       ` Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 03/11] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 21:11     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-09-02 15:37       ` Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 04/11] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:56   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 10/11] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-09-01 10:57   ` [PATCH v2 11/11] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-10-06 20:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-10-06 22:01       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 19:47         ` Alban Gruin
2020-10-21 20:28           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 21:20             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-21 20:30           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-10-09  4:48       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-06 19:53         ` Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-10-16 19:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-10-16 19:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-06 19:53         ` Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-10-05 12:26     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-10-07  6:57     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-13 11:04     ` [PATCH v4 00/12] " Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 01/12] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 02/12] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 03/12] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 04/12] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 05/12] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 06/12] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 07/12] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 08/12] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 09/12] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 10/12] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 11/12] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-13 11:04       ` [PATCH v4 12/12] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21       ` [PATCH v5 00/12] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 01/12] t6027: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 02/12] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 03/12] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 04/12] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 05/12] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 06/12] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 07/12] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 08/12] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 09/12] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 10/12] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 11/12] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-16 10:21         ` [PATCH v5 12/12] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53         ` [PATCH v6 00/13] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 01/13] t6407: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 02/13] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 03/13] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2020-12-22 20:54             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 04/13] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-12-22 21:36             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-03 22:41               ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-08  6:54                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 05/13] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 15:59             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-05 23:20               ` Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 06/13] merge-index: don't fork if the requested program is `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:11             ` Derrick Stolee
2021-01-05 17:35               ` Martin Ågren
2021-01-05 23:20                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 23:20               ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-06  2:04                 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-10 17:15                   ` Alban Gruin
2021-01-10 20:51                     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-08 20:32                       ` Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 07/13] merge-resolve: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 08/13] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:19             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 09/13] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:40             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 10/13] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2021-01-05 16:45             ` Derrick Stolee
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 11/13] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 12/13] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 11:53           ` [PATCH v6 13/13] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2020-11-24 19:34           ` [PATCH v6 00/13] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C SZEDER Gábor
2021-01-05 16:50           ` Derrick Stolee
2021-03-17 20:49           ` [PATCH v7 00/15] " Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 01/15] t6407: modernise tests Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 02/15] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 03/15] t6060: add tests for removed files Alban Gruin
2021-03-22 21:36               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-23 20:43                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 04/15] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 05/15] merge-index: drop the index Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 06/15] merge-index: add a new way to invoke `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 07/15] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2021-03-22 21:59               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-23 20:45                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 08/15] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2021-03-22 22:20               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-23 20:53                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-24  9:10                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-04-10 14:17                     ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 09/15] merge-resolve: " Alban Gruin
2021-03-23 22:21               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-04-10 14:17                 ` Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 10/15] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 11/15] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2021-03-23 23:58               ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 12/15] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 13/15] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 14/15] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2021-03-17 20:49             ` [PATCH v7 15/15] sequencer: use the "octopus" merge " Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54             ` [PATCH v8 00/14] Rewrite the remaining merge strategies from shell to C Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 01/14] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 02/14] t6060: add tests for removed files Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 03/14] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Alban Gruin
2022-08-17  2:10                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 04/14] merge-index: drop the index Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 05/14] merge-index: add a new way to invoke `git-merge-one-file' Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 21:36                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-10 13:14                   ` Phillip Wood
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 06/14] update-index: move add_cacheinfo() to read-cache.c Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 07/14] merge-one-file: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 22:01                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 08/14] merge-resolve: " Alban Gruin
2022-08-10 15:03                 ` Phillip Wood
2022-08-10 21:20                   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-16 12:09                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-16 19:36                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-17  9:42                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-17 19:06                           ` Elijah Newren
2022-08-17 19:18                             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-18 14:24                               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-18 17:32                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-19  1:43                                 ` Elijah Newren [this message]
2022-08-19  2:45                                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-19  4:27                                     ` Elijah Newren
2022-08-17 19:12                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-16 12:17                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2022-08-16 14:02                     ` Phillip Wood
2022-08-17  2:16                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-18 14:43                 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 09/14] merge-recursive: move better_branch_name() to merge.c Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 10/14] merge-octopus: rewrite in C Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 11/14] merge: use the "resolve" strategy without forking Alban Gruin
2022-08-13 16:18                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 12/14] merge: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 13/14] sequencer: use the "resolve" " Alban Gruin
2022-08-09 18:54               ` [PATCH v8 14/14] sequencer: use the "octopus" " Alban Gruin
2022-11-18 11:18               ` [PATCH v9 00/12] merge-index: prepare to rewrite merge drivers in C Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 01/12] merge-index doc & -h: fix padding, labels and "()" use Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 02/12] t6060: modify multiple files to expose a possible issue with merge-index Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 03/12] t6060: add tests for removed files Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 04/12] merge-index tests: add usage tests Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 05/12] merge-index: migrate to parse_options() API Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 06/12] merge-index: improve die() error messages Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 07/12] merge-index i18n: mark die() messages for translation Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 08/12] merge-index: stop calling ensure_full_index() twice Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 09/12] builtin/merge-index.c: don't USE_THE_INDEX_COMPATIBILITY_MACROS Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 10/12] merge-index: libify merge_one_path() and merge_all() Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 11/12] merge-index: use "struct strvec" and helper to prepare args Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 11:18                 ` [PATCH v9 12/12] merge-index: make the argument parsing sensible & simpler Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-11-18 23:30                 ` [PATCH v9 00/12] merge-index: prepare to rewrite merge drivers in C Taylor Blau
2022-11-19 12:46                   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason

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