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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>, Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.9.1
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 07:34:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqpoqj6i3d.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607120927410.6426@virtualbox> (Johannes Schindelin's message of "Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:30:28 +0200 (CEST)")

Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:

> Git's source code assumes that unsigned long is at least as precise as
> time_t. Well, Git's source code is wrong.
> ...

That is correct.  As people mentioned downthread already, "unsigned
long" has two problems, it may not be wide enough, and it cannot
represent time before the epoch.

But moving the internal time representation used in various fields
like commit->date to time_t is likely to be a wrong thing to do,
because the first problem with "unsigned long", i.e. "may not be
wide enough", is not limited to "not wide enough to hold time_t".
It also includes "it may not be wide enough to hold time somebody
else recorded in existing objects".

Since some platforms have time_t that is not wide enough, but still
have intmax_t that is wider, I think we would be better off to pick
an integral type to use for the internal representation that is the
widest throughout the API, and use time_t only at places that we
interact with the system libraries (e.g. when we ask "what is the
time now?" to time(2), when we ask "break down this timestamp" to
gmtime(3)).

Thanks for starting this, and from a brief read, the hotfix to skip
the test downthread looked good.  The places this "starting point"
patch covers look like a good set that interacts with time obtained
locally (e.g. prune that compares with filesystem timestamp); just
make sure you don't go too far and end up shoving timestamps from
other people into time_t, which may not fit.

Thanks.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-12 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-11 20:13 [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.9.1 Junio C Hamano
2016-07-11 21:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-11 23:54   ` Jeff King
2016-07-12  0:40     ` Anders Kaseorg
2016-07-12 14:06       ` Jeff King
2016-07-12  0:56     ` Eric Wong
2016-07-12  1:15       ` Jeff King
2016-07-12  1:59     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12  3:57       ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 15:55         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12  7:30       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12  7:39         ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 11:25           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 14:04             ` Jeff King
2016-07-13 11:35               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-13 16:03                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-13 19:10                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-13 19:41                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-14  7:50                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 18:12             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-13  1:53               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-13  2:01               ` Jeff King
2016-07-13 16:05                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-13 18:52                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-13 19:07                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-14  7:45                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-14  8:01                         ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-14  8:15                         ` Jeff King
2016-07-14 16:06                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12  7:40         ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-12 10:57           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 13:00             ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-12 13:22               ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 13:31                 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-12 13:46                   ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 18:38                     ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-13 11:29                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-13 11:25                   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 14:34         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-07-12 15:16           ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 15:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 15:35               ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 15:41                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-12 16:09                   ` Jeff King
2016-07-12 16:25                     ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-13 14:00                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-13 16:10                         ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-13 18:53                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-12 18:15                     ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-13 20:43       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-07-14  7:38         ` Lars Schneider
2016-07-16  5:50           ` Duy Nguyen
2016-07-14  7:58         ` 32-bit Travis, was " Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-14  9:12           ` Mike Hommey
2016-07-14 10:58             ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-07-15  1:59               ` Mike Hommey

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