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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: William Duclot <william.duclot@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, antoine.queru@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr,
	francois.beutin@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr, mhagger@alum.mit.edu,
	Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de, mh@glandium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 3/3] strbuf: allow to use preallocated memory
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:24:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqbn3dvr22.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160606225847.GA22756@sigill.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:58:48 -0400")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

>> I think that call should reset line.buf to the original buffer on
>> the stack, instead of saying "Ok, I'll ignore the original memory
>> not owned by us and instead keep pointing at the allocated memory",
>> as the allocation was done as a fallback measure.
>
> I am not sure I agree. Do we think accessing the stack buffer is somehow
> cheaper than the heap buffer (perhaps because of cache effects)? If so,
> how much cheaper?

This is not about stack vs heap or even "cheaper" (whatever your
definition of cheap is).  The principle applies equally if the
original buffer came from BSS.

Perhaps I made it clearer by using a more exaggerated example e.g. a
typical expected buffer size of 128 bytes, but the third line of
1000 line input file was an anomaly that is 200k bytes long.  I do
not want to keep that 200k bytes after finishing to process that
third line while using its initial 80 bytes for the remaining 977
lines.

By the way, William seemed to be unhappy with die(), but I actually
think having a die() in the API may not be a bad thing if the check
were about something more sensible.  For example, even if a strbuf
that can grow dynamically, capping the maximum size and say "Hey
this is a one-lne-at-a-time text interface; if we need to grow the
buffer to 10MB, there is something wrong and a producer of such an
input does not even deserve a nice error message" could be an
entirely sensible attitude.  But that does not mean an initial
allocation should be 10MB.  If the expected typical workload fits
within a lot lower bound, starting from there and allowing it to
grow up to that maximum would be the more natural thing to do.

And the problem I have with the proposed "fixed" is that it does not
allow us to do that.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-06 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-06 15:13 [PATCH V2 0/3] strbuf: improve API William Duclot
2016-06-06 15:13 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] strbuf: add tests William Duclot
2016-06-06 16:11   ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-07  8:44   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-06 15:13 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] pretty.c: rename strbuf_wrap() function William Duclot
2016-06-06 16:12   ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-07  9:04   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-06 15:13 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] strbuf: allow to use preallocated memory William Duclot
2016-06-06 16:17   ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-06 17:19   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-06 20:39     ` William Duclot
2016-06-06 22:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-06 22:58         ` Jeff King
2016-06-06 23:24           ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2016-06-06 23:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-06 23:30             ` Jeff King
2016-06-07  9:06             ` William Duclot
2016-06-07 18:10               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-08 16:20               ` Michael Haggerty
2016-06-08 18:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-08 19:19                 ` Jeff King
2016-06-08 19:42                   ` [PATCH] send-pack: use buffered I/O to talk to pack-objects Jeff King
2016-06-09 12:10                     ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-09 14:34                       ` Ramsay Jones
2016-06-09 17:12                         ` Jeff King
2016-06-09 22:40                           ` Ramsay Jones
2016-06-09 16:40                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-09 17:14                         ` Jeff King
2016-06-09 17:22                         ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-08 19:48                   ` [PATCH V2 3/3] strbuf: allow to use preallocated memory Junio C Hamano
2016-06-08 19:52                     ` Jeff King
2016-06-08 23:05                       ` Junio C Hamano

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