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From: William Duclot <william.duclot@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, antoine.queru@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr,
	francois.beutin@ensimag.grenoble-inp.fr, mhagger@alum.mit.edu,
	Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de, mh@glandium.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 3/3] strbuf: allow to use preallocated memory
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:06:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160607090653.GA4665@Messiaen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqbn3dvr22.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com>

On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 04:24:53PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
>>> I think that call should reset line.buf to the original buffer on
>>> the stack, instead of saying "Ok, I'll ignore the original memory
>>> not owned by us and instead keep pointing at the allocated memory",
>>> as the allocation was done as a fallback measure.
>>
>> I am not sure I agree. Do we think accessing the stack buffer is somehow
>> cheaper than the heap buffer (perhaps because of cache effects)? If so,
>> how much cheaper?
> 
> This is not about stack vs heap or even "cheaper" (whatever your
> definition of cheap is).  The principle applies equally if the
> original buffer came from BSS.
> 
> Perhaps I made it clearer by using a more exaggerated example e.g. a
> typical expected buffer size of 128 bytes, but the third line of
> 1000 line input file was an anomaly that is 200k bytes long.  I do
> not want to keep that 200k bytes after finishing to process that
> third line while using its initial 80 bytes for the remaining 977
> lines.

"its initial 128 bytes", rather than "its initial 80 bytes", no?
Or else I'm lost :)
 
> By the way, William seemed to be unhappy with die(), but I actually
> think having a die() in the API may not be a bad thing if the check
> were about something more sensible.  For example, even if a strbuf
> that can grow dynamically, capping the maximum size and say "Hey
> this is a one-lne-at-a-timve text interface; if we need to grow the
> buffer to 10MB, there is something wrong and a producer of such an
> input does not even deserve a nice error message" could be an
> entirely sensible attitude.  But that does not mean an initial
> allocation should be 10MB.  If the expected typical workload fits
> within a lot lower bound, starting from there and allowing it to
> grow up to that maximum would be the more natural thing to do.
> 
> And the problem I have with the proposed "fixed" is that it does not
> allow us to do that.

The "fixed" feature was aimed to allow the users to use strbuf with
strings that they doesn't own themselves (a function parameter for
example). From Michael example in the original mail:

void f(char *path_buf, size_t path_buf_len)
{
    struct strbuf path;
    strbuf_wrap_fixed(&path, path_buf,
    strlen(path_buf),
    path_buf_len);
    ...
    /*
     * no strbuf_release() required here, but if called it
     * is a NOOP
     */
}

I don't have enough knowledge of the codebase to judge if this is
useful, you seem to think it's not.

About this capping, I have troubles to understand if this is something
you'd like to see in this patch (assuming I include your changes)? Or is
this theoretical?


To sum up:
* Rename "wrap" to "attach"
* Forget about this "fixed" feature
* Make the strbuf reuse the preallocated buffer after a reset() (and a
detach() probably?)
* Introduce a more practical macro STRBUF_INIT_ON_STACK() (maybe the
name is too technical?)
* A few code corrections

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-07  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-06 15:13 [PATCH V2 0/3] strbuf: improve API William Duclot
2016-06-06 15:13 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] strbuf: add tests William Duclot
2016-06-06 16:11   ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-07  8:44   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-06 15:13 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] pretty.c: rename strbuf_wrap() function William Duclot
2016-06-06 16:12   ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-07  9:04   ` Johannes Schindelin
2016-06-06 15:13 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] strbuf: allow to use preallocated memory William Duclot
2016-06-06 16:17   ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-06 17:19   ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-06 20:39     ` William Duclot
2016-06-06 22:44       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-06 22:58         ` Jeff King
2016-06-06 23:24           ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-06 23:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-06 23:30             ` Jeff King
2016-06-07  9:06             ` William Duclot [this message]
2016-06-07 18:10               ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-08 16:20               ` Michael Haggerty
2016-06-08 18:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-08 19:19                 ` Jeff King
2016-06-08 19:42                   ` [PATCH] send-pack: use buffered I/O to talk to pack-objects Jeff King
2016-06-09 12:10                     ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-09 14:34                       ` Ramsay Jones
2016-06-09 17:12                         ` Jeff King
2016-06-09 22:40                           ` Ramsay Jones
2016-06-09 16:40                       ` Junio C Hamano
2016-06-09 17:14                         ` Jeff King
2016-06-09 17:22                         ` Matthieu Moy
2016-06-08 19:48                   ` [PATCH V2 3/3] strbuf: allow to use preallocated memory Junio C Hamano
2016-06-08 19:52                     ` Jeff King
2016-06-08 23:05                       ` Junio C Hamano

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